what to do with a failing 282?

[White93z34]

alright this is about my buddies 88' international 2.8/5 speed

 

it started with the loss of reverse, now he says 5th is nonexistant?

 

is there anything that we can do with this tranny, considering the car has 175k on it now. or just cut our losses?

[manitcor]

you could get rid of the car, I would save the trans, you may find someone willing to buy it as is to rebuild it.

 

282s are getting more rare as time goes on

[Guest TurboSedan]

i would stop driving it now. the first 282 i swapped in quickly lost gears one by one, and then i ended up with a big ass hole in the trans. i wish i could have at least saved the V6 bellhousing but that was trashed.

[White93z34]

so... its time to lay the car to rest is what i'm getting.

 

theres a 90' GP in a local yard thats 282 equiped, so mabie see how much they want for it, and go from there.

 

BTW: how much easier is it to swap a manual out then a automatic?

[Guest TurboSedan]

so... its time to lay the car to rest is what i'm getting.

 

theres a 90' GP in a local yard thats 282 equiped, so mabie see how much they want for it, and go from there.

 

BTW: how much easier is it to swap a manual out then a automatic?

 

it is MUCH easier to swap out a manual transmission the engine and trans easily come right out the top. the 282 is a whole lot smaller than a 4T60. sliding the 282 back onto the engine can be a bitch though (getting the input shaft splines to slide into the clutch). it helps to have someone on the other side of the engine turn the crankshaft very very slowly with an 18mm wrench while you slide it on.

[93CutlassSupreme]

these transmissions arn't as great as everybody says they are

 

i lost 5 gear an hour after buying my car

 

 

2 weeks later the transmission was totally destroyed

 

 

they're crude as shit too, i've never driven a car with shift throws as long as these transmissions have

 

 

i can't believe the people who put used 282's behind L67's...hell mine blew up behind a 2.8

 

and yes, i know how to drive

 

 

anyways i'd just dump the car. i wish i would have dumped this car when the trans died, but then again i had just bought it so that would have been quite a loss

 

or Chris, you could pick up my '88 and swap the trans....

[Vegeta]

i need a V6 bellhousing for my quad 4 282 if you decide to pull your trans.

[MonteC]

manual gearboxes are easy to rebuild.

[White93z34]

i haven't had the chance to check the car out for myself yet, but he is siaying is will go into 5th if he moves the gear shift real quick, but it just won't go into reverse.

 

he also mentioned that the gear shift is tilted to the left, so hell for all i know its just a messed up part in the console. but once i get back home i'll get the chance to check it out more indepth.

[Calvin]

i haven't had the chance to check the car out for myself yet, but he is siaying is will go into 5th if he moves the gear shift real quick, but it just won't go into reverse.

 

he also mentioned that the gear shift is tilted to the left, so hell for all i know its just a messed up part in the console. but once i get back home i'll get the chance to check it out more indepth.

 

It seems like it could be very simple to fix. It could be some shifter malfucnction or damage, or the shift cable could be schmucked, or even if the transmission requires opening to fix, it could be a very simple rail/fork problem.

[mihela816]

It may be an unrefined trans, but it's one of very very few choices we have for a manual.

[digitaloutsider]

The 282 really is VERY unrefined. Even in comparison to the 284, which is a great transmission, but I love the part in the service manual that basically says "for anything that needs to be done INSIDE this transmission, please refer to the GM Getrag 284 Exchange Program service bulletin".

[J]

my cousin does trannys for a living and he even said they are prtty good trannys. But to whom said manuals are easier to fix, he said that is the #1 misconception about trannys. He said autos a re much easier to service. Not my opinion but a tranny mechanic. I also asked with a good manual and some time could i fix one myself and he said easilly, just need basic tools and a really good set of snap ring pliers

[1990lumina]

my cousin does trannys for a living and he even said they are prtty good trannys. But to whom said manuals are easier to fix, he said that is the #1 misconception about trannys. He said autos a re much easier to service. Not my opinion but a tranny mechanic. I also asked with a good manual and some time could i fix one myself and he said easilly, just need basic tools and a really good set of snap ring pliers

 

Not to attack you or anything, but if what you say it true, how come I could have manual tranny rebuilt here for half of what an automatic would cost??? Just wondering, because I also thought that the manual was easier to service which is why it is cheaper??? Or maybe just the manual tranny parts are cheaper??

 

Anyway, sounds to me like a linkage problem, something similar.

[mihela816]

Parts are cheaper and few special tools are required to service a manual tranny.

[Guest TurboSedan]

Sure as shit better and any W-body Automatics

 

i agree completely! i don't think i could ever trust a 4T60 unless it was built, and that cost alot of money. the only reason my first 282 blew up was because i was very hard on it; being stupid and doing lots of burnouts. and besides it had over 200,000 miles.

 

i've never considered the 282 to be unrefined. i love how mine shifts. it may be unrefined by today's standards i guess. but, i love it compared to the A555 5-speed in my GTS. the 282 probably isn't nearly as strong as my A555, but it shifts so much smoother.

[MonteC]

my cousin does trannys for a living and he even said they are prtty good trannys. But to whom said manuals are easier to fix, he said that is the #1 misconception about trannys. He said autos a re much easier to service. Not my opinion but a tranny mechanic. I also asked with a good manual and some time could i fix one myself and he said easilly, just need basic tools and a really good set of snap ring pliers

 

dude im taking two classes right now at tech. manual transmission/transaxle rebuild/repair and automatic transmission/transaxle rebuild/repair.

 

and yes manual gearboxes are in my OPINION much easier to fix.

[digitaloutsider]

Parts are cheaper and few special tools are required to service a manual tranny.

Unless you own a 284

[mihela816]

Parts are cheaper and few special tools are required to service a manual tranny.

Unless you own a 284

That's not true. The parts actually don't exist. So they are free.

[J]

that i can't answer. Next time i see him i'll ask

[5speedz34]

The 282 really is VERY unrefined. Even in comparison to the 284, which is a great transmission, but I love the part in the service manual that basically says "for anything that needs to be done INSIDE this transmission, please refer to the GM Getrag 284 Exchange Program service bulletin".

 

My '92 says nothing of that and shows how to rebuild the whole. Can you scan that page?!

 

Jay-If I ever go truly diehard I plan on getting this thing rebuilt, or I just throw the spare in my garage into this!

 

I know it's like 3k+ 2k core charge for a new 284 through GM. And the said thing is I drive right past Getrag almost once a week.

[White93z34]

overall, i have not been overly impressed with the 282, she shifting imo is not that great, it sorta feels clunky changeing gears, i supose the tranny might have felt different in 1988, however in all fairness it probably was alot better in 1988.

 

once i get home it will hopefully be something dumb that can be solved easially