94CutlassSLCoupe Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I was rotating the tires on my Cutlass today and was looking at the exhaust, which is something I would like to improve. My two plans of attack could be: Option 1: Remove stock system from cat back and replace with 2.5" pipe, y-ing off and using some performance mufflers (I like flowmasters but i know everyone here hates them), cut in the factory openings for duals and use some stainless tips (looks like stock LQ1 exhaust only shiny) Option 2: Change exhaust system from the bottom of the downpipe (necks down from 2.5" to 2" on my car), use a high flow cat, and 2.5" all the way to the splitter and using the same kind of stuff as in option 1. I would really like to do something with the exhaust as the 2" pipe, stock cat, resonator, and ultra quiet muffler cant be helping performance or gas mileage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I know the downpipe on the 3.4 equipped cars is already 2.5", i'm unsure on the 3100. Most people do a 2.5" cat-back exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CutlassSLCoupe Posted September 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 My downpipe is 2.5" and then it necks down BEFORE the cat which seems really crappy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 2 1/4 mandrel bent pope from the downpipe 2 the flowmaster, high flow cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CutlassSLCoupe Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 anybody else? what's best for performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitcor Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 I have a full custom exhaust with headers and a 3" cat w/ 2 1/2" all the way back. Honestly your not going to see a huge improvement over stock except in your top end untill you get more mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwmin Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 as is, i would go with 2.5" single for the best performance. high-flow cat and magnaflow muffler and 4" resonator. that should give you some leeway for some mods. i wouldnt mess with dual exhaust, but if its what you want, 2.5 to dual 2.25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 the 3.1 mpfi really doesnt have the compression/flow needed for 2 1/2" mandrel bent, you'll loose more low end then gain top, but if its shitty bent (forget the name) then 2 1/2 will be okey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay3800 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Everyone says use a high-flow cat, but unless your state has emissions testing, you can save money but just using a straight pipe there. As long as your exhaust isn't too large in diameter, the straight pipe won't hurt your low-end much at all, and it can only help your top end. The only downsides are definitely a louder exhaust, and of course worse polution. But what difference does one car make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwmin Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 the 3.1 mpfi really doesnt have the compression/flow needed for 2 1/2" mandrel bent, you'll loose more low end then gain top, but if its shitty bent (forget the name) then 2 1/2 will be okey good point. plus its a lot cheaper. i didnt mean mandrel, thanks for pointing that out (as if you were referring to me - i'm so self-righteous -- j/k) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Everyone says use a high-flow cat, but unless your state has emissions testing, you can save money but just using a straight pipe there. As long as your exhaust isn't too large in diameter, the straight pipe won't hurt your low-end much at all, and it can only help your top end. The only downsides are definitely a louder exhaust, and of course worse polution. But what difference does one car make? have a cat there provides a little backpressure which is needed for more low end power, and being a high flow unit, you wont loose any power top end. Cat converters really dont change the sound by much. good point. plus its a lot cheaper. i didnt mean mandrel, thanks for pointing that out (as if you were referring to me - i'm so self-righteous -- j/k) the 2 1/4" mandrel bent piping will provide fast flow out of the pipes over the 2 1/2" standard bent, which means more power and better mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay3800 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Everyone says use a high-flow cat, but unless your state has emissions testing, you can save money but just using a straight pipe there. As long as your exhaust isn't too large in diameter, the straight pipe won't hurt your low-end much at all, and it can only help your top end. The only downsides are definitely a louder exhaust, and of course worse polution. But what difference does one car make? have a cat there provides a little backpressure which is needed for more low end power, and being a high flow unit, you wont loose any power top end. Cat converters really dont change the sound by much. That's what a lot of people told me before I took my cat off, but it was not true AT ALL. With my Flowmaster 40, it made the exhaust literally over twice as loud in volume! I just wanted to put that disclaimer in so he wouldn't be surprised when his exhaust volume doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 then your stock cat was clogged, I went from stock exhaust to straight pipe and dynomax mufflers to high flow cat with dynomax. When I pulled the stock cat, it got a little louder and with the high flow cat, noise didnt change at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay3800 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 then your stock cat was clogged, I went from stock exhaust to straight pipe and dynomax mufflers to high flow cat with dynomax. When I pulled the stock cat, it got a little louder and with the high flow cat, noise didnt change at all. I don't think it was clogged, but it sure rattled like crazy. So either way it was shot. I'm still surprised as many people insist on using a "high flow" cat when there are virtually no adverse effects to a straight pipe. And the big positive is reduced cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 the 3100 stock downpipe is 2" maybe even less. Looking at it from the outside it seems 2.5" but don't be fooled, it's "double walled" aka that's acting like a heat shield. I have a 2.5" DP made by my muffler shop to a tune of $40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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