93CutlassSupreme Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?did=136&scid=60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Sweeet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted August 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 i didn't know the seat belts provide no protection if the door opens....kind of sobering. i've never seen a door open in a crash though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 i didn't know the seat belts provide no protection if the door opens....kind of sobering. I think about that everyday, and point it out to almost everyone that rides in my car. Makes them feel great too. "hey, if these seatbelts are on the door, how the fuck are they going to do anything if I lose a door?" I never thought about it TOO much, but reading over that page made me really wary of getting another pre-'95 in general. I'll probably forget about it by morning, but still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 I'm driving a death trap on wheels! Horray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Yeah, that's a big reason I'm glad I've got a '95. Door mounted seatbelts are shit. I tried not taking my seatbelt off in the '89 when I had it, just getting out of the car. First of all, I almost tripped on the belt getting out, and then getting in was a bitch too. What was GM thinking? Don't they have beta testers??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 damn our cars are junk!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 "T/signal inoperative 1994-95 (43-32-05A);" I've got that one, it's a huge problem with the 1.5 gen signal switches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 i didn't know the seat belts provide no protection if the door opens....kind of sobering. I think about that everyday, and point it out to almost everyone that rides in my car. Makes them feel great too. "hey, if these seatbelts are on the door, how the fuck are they going to do anything if I lose a door?" I never thought about it TOO much, but reading over that page made me really wary of getting another pre-'95 in general. I'll probably forget about it by morning, but still... I've thought about it a lot... enough that I've seriously considered converting mine to conventional belts. It makes sense though, if the door opens, what's going to stop you from falling right out? On the plus side, very rarely does the door come open in an accident, especially with the giant striker that GM uses. I didn't know about the vertical vs. horizontal airbags, I've never heard that one. I don't even know what that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 I think about it almost everytime I get in my car....and everyone that gets in my car and says "oh shit, that's cool how the seatbelt is easy to reach" I tell them what happens if the door rips off in a crash....that shuts them up. The way I see it is if I get in an accident, I'll either fall out if the door opens, get pinned between the seat and seat belt, or just up and die if it's bad enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Yeah, there are a couple benefits to the seatbelts being on the doors, but they're all convenience benefits. There are no safety benefits. I do like how it's easy to get into the back seat of a coupe without having to duck under the seatbelt. The best would probably be seat-mounted belts like on GM fullsize trucks and SUV's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broan Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 I guess that's why they tell you to lock the doors while you're inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfahn Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 In my accident in my white gp, I was thrown about 10 feet from the car because of these seatbelts. The car spun 360, and went into a ditch, and somehow, the door came open and I went flying. I was not very hurt, but only because it was a field and not pavement that I went into! PS: My doors were locked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Owned. That sucks man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 I just looked up my Lumina on there...all I can say is what a piece of shit oh well I'll keep on driving her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyman87 Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 wow that sight is full of .. bad things.. they dont mention that we have a 5-star crash test rating. + my breaks are great! only replaced the rotors once and the pads once both front and rear. suspension is somewhat new kyb gr-2s and at 194,000 miles all i can say this car is F-ing awesome for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 The second I get the cutlass, I'm going to drive it very recklessly just out of spite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 they dont mention that we have a 5-star crash test rating I don't know about you, but the last time I checked my car has a 2-star frontal rating... just checked yours... yea, YOU have a 5 star rating.. earlier Ws don't. Others went up to 4 when they got airbags... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 He doesn't just have 5-star frontal, but check IIHS.org, those Luminas are pretty damn good for offset too. The early pre-airbag, door mtd seatbelt W's are terrible safety-wise. After seeing Kfahn's story, I think I'm seriously going to convert mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfahn Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 mine was a 95, so it isn't only the pre-airbag W's that are bad, but I would still reccomend converting. I got lucky, but it could have been a lot worse. In defense of the car, I was t-boned at 90, and I got out of it only minorly lconcussed. The police sar the car and were amazed. I was hit right behind my seat, and the panel was bent in almost a foot and a half, but the i-beam at the door held up and kept me alive. Inches forward, and I wouldn't be saying any of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 That's dope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 I often wondered about the safety of my vehicle when i downgraded from the 95 to the 92. I like the interior looks alot better, and at first i was a bit wary of the lack of an airbag, but that doesn't bother me anymore. When i first started driving the 92 full time, i noticed how the seatbelts are. It looks like they only attach to the door with a piece a plastic- is this so? How hard would it be to convert to the 94+ style belts (plus i can get the leather door panels that way!!) would it really be worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logikf1ve Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 I guess that's why they tell you to lock the doors while you're inside. I don't think locking the doors will help you any. Anyhow, I never thought of it that way, our old '90 Century was that way and I never questioned it. I guess I figured it was safer because of the two extra safety latches it had up at the top of the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 When i first started driving the 92 full time, i noticed how the seatbelts are. It looks like they only attach to the door with a piece a plastic- is this so? How hard would it be to convert to the 94+ style belts (plus i can get the leather door panels that way!!) would it really be worth it? Unfortunately, you'd have to convert to 95-97 Cutlass or Monte Carlo seatbelts because GP coupes got the door mounted belts all the way until the 97 redesign. I don't know if the 95-96 Regals got the pillar mounted belts or not. I don't know how hard it will be to convert to pillar mounted belts, but I'll definitely be investigating it. Being ejected sounds incredibly unpleasant! Right now I'm guessing the hardest part is having a threaded bung welded into the pillar and also into the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted September 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 locking the doors doesn't help in a crash, it prevents you from getting car jacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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