94cutlatized Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 Hello people, well i'm in college now, studying Diesel technology. Anyways The shop is divided into tree big ass places, FORD, GM-DIESEL PROGRAM, and another area in the miidle of FORD and GM, which is where they have lots of trany's and engines for practice purposes. So i was passing by, and saw this quad cam engine, looked like an lq1, cause of the valve covers. The engine ended up being a brand new, never used lq1, Did i mention there were 13 of these. I was like GOD DAMM, "can i have one" The instructor says no of course and he says that they have a deal with GM (the doner) that the engines shall never be sold or taken out of the school, also that the engines should be dismantled and destroyed, and every part cut in half or pieces. Then GM has to come and check to see if it was done. I coulndt believe it. The engines were indeed 3.4 DOHC, simply because i saw the twin cams, the instructor told me, and it had a tag "NEW GM 3.4L". Those engine looked freaking awesome, one looked great but i saw 13 of those 220 horsepower fuckers right next to each other. Its sad since the engines would eventually be destroyed, probably by us at the end of the sem. At the back, they also have a caged area with bad ass cars, like a cadillac seville sts, chevy s-10 X-treme, brand new tahoe, what looked like a dodge stealth, a new dodge, and a new ford. Insinde the shop they have also this monte carlo with the stock duals, i think a z-34. anyways it has the lq1 also and 74K miles on it, plus some other brand new cars. Quote
supreme_style21 Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 Seems to be a lot of those roaming around college shops. Sad to see a lot of that stuff destroyed. We had a few of those newer Stratus's (strati?) and an Intrepid. IIRC, none had VIN's and they had something to the tune of 'For Educational Purpose Only. Not registerable or road legal' etched into the bottom of the side windows. All were perfectly running, brand spankin' new cars... and they were going to be destroyed. Thats the price of education I guess. Quote
mfewtrail Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 The college I went to had 8 LQ1's in the automotive department.....I now own one of those crate engines. Shhhh, don't tell GM. GM likely did what they did at my school....they donated these YEARS ago, they don't give a shit what happens to them afterwards. We also had a couple of Quad 4 engines, various Honda motors, etc.... Quote
skiiirt Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 I hope that means there will be a new generation of mechanics who can work on my engine for a dirt cheap price Quote
jeremy Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 ...caged area with bad ass cars, like a cadillac seville sts, chevy s-10 X-treme.......... I am sorry but I laughed when I read "bad ass cars" and s-10 x-treme in the same sentence Quote
Brian P Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 The auto department at my school has a early '90s Saturn in great shape. It also has a '00 Caddy STS, an Olds Calais, couple astro vans, etc. From what I understand they are donated instead of crushed for some sort of problem, preventing it to be sold in the first place. I doubt GM would donate perfectly good cars when defective ones come out of the factory every so often. Quote
JakeMetz63 Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 I got my LQ1 from XtremeLumina's highschool auto shop. They were extras from the indy pace car a few years back. The teacher told me it had 295 horses on it but it still pulls pretty good in my GTP. They had 2 sitting in there, someone got the first one, and the teacher wouldnt let the kids mess with the other one because he thought they were too nice. Quote
94cutlatized Posted August 24, 2005 Author Report Posted August 24, 2005 ...caged area with bad ass cars, like a cadillac seville sts, chevy s-10 X-treme.......... I am sorry but I laughed when I read "bad ass cars" and s-10 x-treme in the same sentence LOL c'mon man they do look pretty nice with the ground effects, haha Quote
jeremy Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 ...caged area with bad ass cars, like a cadillac seville sts, chevy s-10 X-treme.......... I am sorry but I laughed when I read "bad ass cars" and s-10 x-treme in the same sentence LOL c'mon man they do look pretty nice with the ground effects, haha Don't get me wrong, I do like the way that they look. Quote
94cutlatized Posted August 24, 2005 Author Report Posted August 24, 2005 The auto department at my school has a early '90s Saturn in great shape. It also has a '00 Caddy STS, an Olds Calais, couple astro vans, etc. From what I understand they are donated instead of crushed for some sort of problem, preventing it to be sold in the first place. I doubt GM would donate perfectly good cars when defective ones come out of the factory every so often. Sounds reasonable, but donations to school have to be vehicles in perfect working conitions, thats why they are always new, or have really really low miles, like the prizm in high school where i went, it had 27 miles on it. They need to be in this order since they will be diagnosed with computers and other equipment so a defective piece that cant be worked on in the firts place will not serve a purpose to educate, since rookies in auto tech will have no idea whats worng with it to begin with. Well, i was told this by my instructor, very knowlegable man. Quote
chadz34 Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 That's a fucking waste of a perfect engine. Quote
fastbird232 Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 I hate that. It's like those prototype cars that have to be crushed if they don't get made. Like the 4 or 5 SVT Thunderbirds they built in the mid '90s. Supercharged DOHC 4.6L motors, but the program never took hold so they just crushed them. They could make some pretty decent money auctioning them off, I don't get why they always demand that their spare cars and motors have to be destroyed like that, especially when the local junkyward won't part out any LQ1s because he's only got ONE and someone might want the whole thing someday. Quote
Euro Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 i guess the main reason they would do it(my guess) is that since they're donated to auto classes across the country...if someone buys the car/motor and something happens to the driver because of some wacky car/motor error....then GM cant be sued for it Quote
Brian P Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 The auto department at my school has a early '90s Saturn in great shape. It also has a '00 Caddy STS, an Olds Calais, couple astro vans, etc. From what I understand they are donated instead of crushed for some sort of problem, preventing it to be sold in the first place. I doubt GM would donate perfectly good cars when defective ones come out of the factory every so often. Sounds reasonable, but donations to school have to be vehicles in perfect working conitions, thats why they are always new, or have really really low miles, like the prizm in high school where i went, it had 27 miles on it. They need to be in this order since they will be diagnosed with computers and other equipment so a defective piece that cant be worked on in the firts place will not serve a purpose to educate, since rookies in auto tech will have no idea whats worng with it to begin with. Well, i was told this by my instructor, very knowlegable man. Oh yeah, I know that everything has to be operational. The caddy at my school has a problem with the frame, I believe something to the effect of it can't be aligned right? It's driveable and everything works, but it has that issue and that's why they donated THAT one to my school in particular. Quote
CuttySup Posted August 26, 2005 Report Posted August 26, 2005 Ford donated an '05 Mustang convertible to my high school auto shop. We also had an '01 Mazda Tribute ES-V6 with frame damage after it fell off of a train from the factory -- fully loaded. I think it had something like 63 miles on it. Then there's the usual beaters: Ciera station wagon with the Iron Duke, '97 Cutlass N-body with a blown head gasket, '92 Lumina with 260k, etc. We even had an old Cadillac limo at one point. Quote
MoTox8410 Posted August 26, 2005 Report Posted August 26, 2005 wtf all my high school got was a toyota from the 80's from one of the teachers and i live next to a GM transmission plant Quote
jeremy Posted August 26, 2005 Report Posted August 26, 2005 wtf all my high school got was a toyota from the 80's from one of the teachers and i live next to a GM transmission plant I am not suprised, especially if you went to Willow Run. Quote
MoTox8410 Posted August 26, 2005 Report Posted August 26, 2005 nah belleville high school 1/2 of west willow goes to bhs and the other half is willow run Quote
94cutlatized Posted August 28, 2005 Author Report Posted August 28, 2005 i guess the main reason they would do it(my guess) is that since they're donated to auto classes across the country...if someone buys the car/motor and something happens to the driver because of some wacky car/motor error....then GM cant be sued for it Yeah thats true, they might not be deffects, but if they do have one and something happens well yeah, someone can sue. But c'mon, split the cams in pieces? damm that sucks, not the mention the time we'll take to split those fu*kers apart, when Automotive is done with them. Quote
loominaz34 Posted August 28, 2005 Report Posted August 28, 2005 the tech school I'm going to the second half of my day in highschool has at least 12 LQ1's I wonder if i oculd bring my enigine in and rebuild that one... Quote
chadz34 Posted August 28, 2005 Report Posted August 28, 2005 Why would kids want to learn on the LQ1..... I mean if mechanics hate it........ Quote
havikx Posted August 30, 2005 Report Posted August 30, 2005 dude..why cant GM donate a few new 3.4 engines to...umm.. me. i'd love to take them off their hands. i still dont understand why they have to be destroyed. the cars may be deffects..but the motors, as i read it, were new. no reason to bash them when you can drop it in something. i'm sure you could probably pay one of those instructors a few hundred in order to cover his ass. he'd probably break teh rest and leave the parts lying on thee floor afterwards so when the GM agent came..he just saw parts and no full engines. Quote
mfewtrail Posted August 30, 2005 Report Posted August 30, 2005 dude..why cant GM donate a few new 3.4 engines to...umm.. me. i'd love to take them off their hands. i still dont understand why they have to be destroyed. the cars may be deffects..but the motors, as i read it, were new. no reason to bash them when you can drop it in something. i'm sure you could probably pay one of those instructors a few hundred in order to cover his ass. he'd probably break teh rest and leave the parts lying on thee floor afterwards so when the GM agent came..he just saw parts and no full engines. Seriously, nobody comes to look at those engines. They probably do check to see if the cars are destroyed/dismantled or whatever though. My LQ1 I got from the college is brand new, I took another one apart during my engine class and measured anything and everything on it, definitely "new" engines. Quote
EurosportZ34 Posted August 30, 2005 Report Posted August 30, 2005 that's awesome that your school has 3.4 DOHC's...i'd think they'd have a bunch of 3.1's instead Quote
havikx Posted August 30, 2005 Report Posted August 30, 2005 that's awesome that your school has 3.4 DOHC's...i'd think they'd have a bunch of 3.1's instead drop one of those new 3.4 in your cars and make it one step closer to a real z34. lol. just joshin..i'm totally loving the z conversion you did. just need some stock rims and a 3.4 i got rims for ya. Quote
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