mihela816 Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 I'm replacing my roommates A/C compressor with idler part #10044867 and I need pics/diagrams of how the thing is supposed to go. Also, do I have to remove the compressor to install it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 IIRC torque spec is 40 ft/lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Wow, that is clean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Yes, you must remove the compressor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihela816 Posted August 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 So what exactly does that bolt to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 it attatches it to the timing cover. there should be a hole in the timing cover that is already drilled & tapped for it (i'm assuming you are working on a GEN-II 2.8/3.1 MPFI; i don't know about other engines). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihela816 Posted August 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Ok, I found it. For future reference, you don't need to remove the compressor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Ok, I found it. For future reference, you don't need to remove the compressor. Really!? You learn something new everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Ok, I found it. For future reference, you don't need to remove the compressor. but why would you leave it there anyway? it's heavy, gets in the way, and no longer does anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihela816 Posted August 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Well, you could run the A/C delete at the track, then put the regular belt on and ride in comfort on the way home. I'm doing it this way because I can't discharge the system myself, and my room mate can't afford that right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Well, you could run the A/C delete at the track, then put the regular belt on and ride in comfort on the way home. I'm doing it this way because I can't discharge the system myself, and my room mate can't afford that right now. Sure ya can. Just press the valve and release to the atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turby Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Just press the valve and release to the atmosphere. :yikes: But that's illegal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Just press the valve and release to the atmosphere. :yikes: But that's illegal... yup, sure is! But its cheaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Well, you could run the A/C delete at the track, then put the regular belt on and ride in comfort on the way home. I'm doing it this way because I can't discharge the system myself, and my room mate can't afford that right now. Or just buy a shorter belt and use the time and money you saved on NOT buying the idler pulley on something more useful. Let me say this once again: The idler pulley is absolutely worthless on a 2.8/3.1. You can do the exact same job with a shorter belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihela816 Posted August 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Without the idler, the belt would hit the A/C compressor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Or just buy a shorter belt and use the time and money you saved on NOT buying the idler pulley on something more useful. Let me say this once again: The idler pulley is absolutely worthless on a 2.8/3.1. You can do the exact same job with a shorter belt. would the waterpump pulley have enough belt contact without the idler pulley? i kinda doubt it would. either way, a new GM idler pulley is only $22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turby Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 The idler pulley is absolutely worthless on a 2.8/3.1. You can do the exact same job with a shorter belt. Take another look at Josh's pic. No idler pulley would mean the water pump would not be spinnin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Take a look at my car. I bypassed the A/C compressor with a shorter belt. Never EVER had a problem with overheating, and the belt got plenty of contact with the water pump. For the entire time I owned and drove my Grand Prix, it never had an A/C compressor or a pulley in place of it. Edit: I see the problem. I said "idler". Sorry. I meant the A/C dummy pulley that this thread is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 The A/C dummy pulley is an idler pulley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Okay then. My terminology was correct. At any rate, no. You don't need that pulley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 i still think you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 As if the car being driven for four years like that wasn't proof enough otherwise.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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