Better dogbones for 90 Eurosport???

[90Luminator]

Aloha,

 

I was wondering if anyone knows of some tougher bushings for the dogbones for my 90 Lumina Eurosport? The cheesy foam ones fall apart way too fast and i'm trying to find some high density urithane ones like you would find on the suspension? Any help would be great! Thanks!

 

-Andy

[digitaloutsider]

http://www.fastfwdperformance.com/

[90Luminator]

ok great, but that's a little much for a broke college student. Do you know where I might be able to get just the bushings? Thanks

[Stevo]

Either you get these or resort to buying stock. I think from what I have read here thats all that is available over worn ones.

[cutlsp]

you could make poly ones but they don't last as long as the ffp ones.

[Euro]

FFP ones are very well worth the money he charges for em

[cutty]

FFP ones are very well worth the money he charges for em

 

i agree i just bought them, they are great!!!

[mfewtrail]

Read this. http://www.tpsgarage.com/TGP/Engine/motor_mount.htm

[19Cutlass94]

having stock mounts with the poly bushing is doing it half-assed. The FFP mounts are well worth the money, just get them. Ive had mine for roughly 3 months, there the best. I just dont see the point in just changing the bushing, because the mounts itself is still very weak compared to the FFP.

[90Luminator]

Ok from the link and the details at FFP there is a lot of talk about extra vibration. So how much more does it shake the car, and will it ever reduce once the new supports have time to get broken in? Thanks

 

-Andy

 

P.S. Also does FFP or anyone else make front for rear strut tower braces for a 90 eurosport? Thanks again!

[19Cutlass94]

There will be some extra vibration, its not that bad at all, but when new, you can feel the virbation. About a month after you install them, you dont notice any virbration at all. Plus the vibration kinda feels like you got a bad ass motor in the car

 

For the front/rear STB, http://www.rsmracing.com duno if they have it for a 90 eurosport, but worth a shot, havent looked in such a long time

[mfewtrail]

having stock mounts with the poly bushing is doing it half-assed. The FFP mounts are well worth the money, just get them. Ive had mine for roughly 3 months, there the best. I just dont see the point in just changing the bushing, because the mounts itself is still very weak compared to the FFP.

 

I seriously doubt anyone here is going to break a stock mount due to them being "weak."

[19Cutlass94]

having stock mounts with the poly bushing is doing it half-assed. The FFP mounts are well worth the money, just get them. Ive had mine for roughly 3 months, there the best. I just dont see the point in just changing the bushing, because the mounts itself is still very weak compared to the FFP.

 

I seriously doubt anyone here is going to break a stock mount due to them being "weak."

 

It was comparing the two. Since we all know that the FFP mounts are much stronger than stock, but I agree with you.

[Euro]

http://www.rsmracing.com has front and rear STBs for the luminas. IIRC they're $100 each +shipping

[dbtk2]

having stock mounts with the poly bushing is doing it half-assed. The FFP mounts are well worth the money, just get them. Ive had mine for roughly 3 months, there the best. I just dont see the point in just changing the bushing, because the mounts itself is still very weak compared to the FFP.

 

For 1/4 the price I would rather risk my motor mount breaking. (has anyone had that happen???) The way I see it, I can put poly bushings on both of my cars, and then put GMPP trailing arms on one of them for the price of FFP dogbones. And now I've done 3 mods for the price you spent on one. I have the poly bushings in stock mounts on my Lumina (it was like that when I bought it) and they're damn stiff. I doubt the FFP ones are much stiffer. I guess they could be a little, but for 4 times the price I just don't see it being worthwhile...its not a sportscar or a racecar, its a daily driver.

 

Just my opinion though. But from what I've seen, the FFP mount is a very nice piece.

 

Shawn

[RareGMFan]

I second what Shawn said. I've never heard of the mount itself breaking. Just the weak stock rubber bushings disintegrating from the torque. This mod has been done quite a few times over by now, and I have yet to hear of such a thing happening. I have the poly bushings in the stock mounts on the TGP. Been a couple of months, and so far, so good. I bought the FFP ones used off a memeber a little while back. Those will go on the TSTE one of these days (least of my automotive concerns at the moment). I only got them because I got a good deal on them. Otherwise, nothing at all against FFP, or anyone that doesn't mind spending the money on them (more power to you) but personaly, I just can't bring myself to blow that kind of cash on motor mounts.

[Stevo]

Would it be plausible for FFP to design and build lower mounts?

[19Cutlass94]

ok I never said that you were going to break the stock motor mounts. All I said was that the stock mounts are weak compared to the FFP mounts, I highly doubt anyone will ever break the stock mounts unless your trying to with other means then them on the car.

 

Stevo, I believe FFP can make/build you basically anything you want, as long as you send in an original piece and tell them what you would like.

"Q: Can FFP make a custom part for my car?

A: YES! If there is a part that you want, but is not listed on the site, give us a call! We can make almost anything if we have a stock part to work off of. Prices depend on the complexity of the part and number of parts made"

[90Luminator]

Well you guys haven't let me down yet on the advice so I ordered a set of the brackets and would love to get FFP to make some strut tower braces for me too and maybe some suspension upgrades. All in good time. Thanks again W-body guys!

 

-Andy 8)

[ragejg]

Has anyone documented the dimensions of the bushings so that one could possibly buy a few of these from say, Energy Suspension or Prothane? I'd like to do this, as I have several old stock dogbones lying around, and I'd like to torch the rubber out and throw in some poly, kinda like replacing the bushings on a truck's leaf spring.

[mfewtrail]

Has anyone documented the dimensions of the bushings so that one could possibly buy a few of these from say, Energy Suspension or Prothane? I'd like to do this, as I have several old stock dogbones lying around, and I'd like to torch the rubber out and throw in some poly, kinda like replacing the bushings on a truck's leaf spring.

 

Did you even bother looking at the link I posted??????? If not, go to the first page and check it out.

 

 

EDIT: For you lazy people, I'll just post it again.......

 

http://www.tpsgarage.com/TGP/Engine/motor_mount.htm

[Calvin]

I remember seeing in some ricer magazine an article where they bought some polyurethane stuff in a can from Grainger or some such and it came in different hardnesses, and they took a circular motor mount and turned it sideways so it was a vertical cylinder, and filled it with the poly, and let it set up. When it cured, for not very much money, it was a custom mount in the exact stiffness they wanted. Anyone thought about trying this? I think you could easily make a simple jig to hold those metal tubes in the center of the bushing holes, or even make molds based on the dogbone dimensions. Just a thought...

 

Kurt