AWeb80 Posted January 31, 2003 Report Posted January 31, 2003 I have a 94 GP with the 3.1 and was wondering if stiffer dogbones will help get more HP out of the engine. Does anyone know where i can get them. Thanks in advance. Quote
SEiZe Posted January 31, 2003 Report Posted January 31, 2003 Are you refering to the two dogbones that keep the engine from rolling back towards the firewall ? Quote
Robby1870 Posted January 31, 2003 Report Posted January 31, 2003 no you wont see and HP from them, but I have heard that reducing the amount the engine rocks back on take off will help power transfer to the wheels. So get some poly-U ones from: http://www.fastfwdperformance.com/ They also sell chips, underdrive pulleys, and coilovers. Plus the ploy-U dog bones look a lot better than the old black stockers. Quote
taylerade Posted January 31, 2003 Report Posted January 31, 2003 I have heard that reducing the amount the engine rocks back on take off will help power transfer to the wheels. is there any proof?? stock dogbones look sturdy enough to me?? tell me if im wrong Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted February 1, 2003 Report Posted February 1, 2003 I have them and you can feel a difference in your takeoffs. There is no lag from the engine rolling before the wheels turn. Quote
brian89gp Posted February 1, 2003 Report Posted February 1, 2003 You'd be amazed, my stock one with my slushbox trans the engine moved a good 1-2". Lets just say that the hard rubber gets compressed near 100%. Quote
skalor Posted February 1, 2003 Report Posted February 1, 2003 I put poly bushings in my dogbones. I thinked it helps with takeoff, and the engine doesn't even budge when you rev it. It did create a little bit of vibration, but it's not bad at all. You just buy fiero 4-cylinder dogbone bushings, but you need a 1.75" hole for the bushing so you'll have to either drill it out or mill it to 1.75" like I did. Here's a link to Chris A's site where he explains how to do it: http://aldridgec.home.att.net/TGP/Engine/motor_mount.htm Quote
RedZMonte Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 don't forget the stock bones are made of a cheap junky metal. if you "HOG it out" you will weaken the dogbone. i know michael built his DB's because he broke his (Pictured on ffp website). He does have a 5spd and the auto's would have a harder time breaking one. his are Billet alluminum and MUCH stronger.. they do transfer the power to the ground faster. you don't make more power you just get it to the ground faster. Less mechanical movements to do means faster power transfers. RedZ Quote
Vegeta Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 I bought a set for the longevity alone. Sotck lasts me about 10k miles. Ive lived with the crap bushings for much longer than that but its nice to never have to worry about them again...ever. Quote
SleeperRed90TGp Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 Just thought I would through this in. It's cheap. Been in there two years. I routed 4 donuts with a dremel tool 1 3/8 od from 1/2 hardwood, pressed them in and filled the gaps with washers. (about two on each side) Ran it for a day and added a washer to each mount after they seated. Since then I haven't touched them. Cost about $7.00. Quote
89BuickRegalGS Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 I replaced my stock/original dogbons struts last year after they had been on the car for over 160,000 miles. I immediatly noticed better handling as well as the power being put on the ground better. The problem is the replacement struts are wearing out fast! Quote
brian89gp Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 Just thought I would through this in. It's cheap. Been in there two years. I routed 4 donuts with a dremel tool 1 3/8 od from 1/2 hardwood, pressed them in and filled the gaps with washers. (about two on each side) Ran it for a day and added a washer to each mount after they seated. Since then I haven't touched them. Cost about $7.00. LMAO, i just don't know what to say. Quote
Brian P Posted February 4, 2003 Report Posted February 4, 2003 Wood?? Which type? GOt me curious.... On a side note, heck instead of getting poly bushings which will cause more vibration, I'm going to get a set from a 3100 w-body. Im only in it for the longetivity alone, like Ben. The 3100 ones are much more of a "mount" rather than these goofy dogbones that barely do its job for more than a month! I can't believe how many Ive gone through on a pretty much stock engine! Quote
SleeperRed90TGp Posted February 4, 2003 Report Posted February 4, 2003 Oak i think. What ever it is it's hard. Got it a lowes. Just got tired of looking at the squished out rubbber. Quote
Brian P Posted February 4, 2003 Report Posted February 4, 2003 I want to see pictures of it! Did you put any treatment on it? Quote
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