88Intl Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Went to the U-Pull-It and found a Driver Information System in an Cutlass Supreme, manufactured in 1989. Bought it, does an 1988 not-originally-equipped with this feature have a wiring harness to plug it in to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Intl Posted January 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Anyone know if the '88 International Series has a harness inside the dash, before I pull the panel and check? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Intl Posted January 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 http://www.geocities.com/rhedalert/dis.html According to this if the car has electronic climate control there should be a connector to plug into, otherwise some D.I.Y. wiring is needed. But the DIS donor car had a standard climate control, and the DIS looked factory installed, hopefully there is a connector in mine too. Maybe I will have to go outside tonight and pull the dash panels to find out for sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 sorry, you definetly won't have the wiring. It was never offered in '88, but even if it was, Ive never seen an 89-91 with factory DIC wiring and manual climate control, base gage cluster, etc. However, my car didnt have anything, and I managed to get the DIC in quick, only 11 wires and they're all under dash, just have to do some splicing. That's my page you linked to I need to finish it and I'll have the wiring pinouts/routing listed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Intl Posted January 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 sorry, you definetly won't have the wiring. It was never offered in '88, but even if it was, Ive never seen an 89-91 with factory DIC wiring and manual climate control, base gage cluster, etc. However, my car didnt have anything, and I managed to get the DIC in quick, only 11 wires and they're all under dash, just have to do some splicing. That's my page you linked to I need to finish it and I'll have the wiring pinouts/routing listed! Thanks, please post any info you have, even if it's not yet formatted for web presentation! The donor car was a red International coupe, built sometime in '89 according to the door sticker, digital cluster w/gauges & tach, and manual climate control. Power windows & seats, trunk release, rear bucket seats. Might have been a 3.1. My 1988 Olds "Music Systems and Electronics" Owners Manual includes the DIC, maybe it was available on 1988 Oldsmobiles other than the CS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse5302 Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Ive never seen an 89-91 with factory DIC wiring and manual climate control, base gage cluster, etc. Mine had it! I have a 91 Cutlass Supreme SL 4 door (now converted to full International Series--gauges cluster/DIC/HUD/Auto AC/seats, etc...) that had manual climate control, base cluster, and bench seats. The plug was there, stuffed under the dash. You might want to pull your climate control bezel and asy tray off and see if it's there. But I doubt it will be. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 yeah it was available in the eighty eight and ninety eight regency, also the Ciera Int'l and the Calais Intl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Ive never seen an 89-91 with factory DIC wiring and manual climate control, base gage cluster, etc. Mine had it! I have a 91 Cutlass Supreme SL 4 door (now converted to full International Series--gauges cluster/DIC/HUD/Auto AC/seats, etc...) that had manual climate control, base cluster, and bench seats. The plug was there, stuffed under the dash. You might want to pull your climate control bezel and asy tray off and see if it's there. But I doubt it will be. Jason AH yeah, I think the SL sedans got it. Shawn mentioned how his step dad's '90 sedan had the wiring up there, however my '90 2 door didnt have it. I also have this strange feeling that the sedan wiring harness is different, after all it does have to account for the 2 extra power window switches and different drivers door switches. they MIGHT have went to a more generic one for the sedans, cause my '90 coupe didn't have an extra harness anywhere! But the '88 definetly can't have it, the option wasn't offered, unless it was built mid year???? couldnt hurt to check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Nah, '88 won't have the wiring. Penny's '88 is an International and the harness isn't there. Unfortunately it's not in the 94 either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godofthunder Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 My 88 Ciera International didnt have one . It actually didnt have crap, no power windows or locks, the only nice thing is it wasnt a quad 4, but a 4 tech (or tech 4) 2.5 Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Intl Posted February 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Where does the DIC get its data from? Same wires that go to the ALDL connector? Which leads are 12v always on, 12v accessory, 12v run, ground? Maybe could use as an extra digital clock, even without engine data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Intl Posted February 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Does the DIC display fault information in more detail than the CHECK ENGINE light? Can it be wired to a ALDL connector,and plugged into other OBD 1 fuel injected GM cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPRACER Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 could someone post a pic of a dic in a 94-96 Grand Prix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORBI Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 I used my DIC as a clock before i connected it to work and that lasted a year and when i connected it i was like "it was so simple connect it to work and i waited a year for it" i send you a wiring diagram i used and it will be a piece of cake to make is fully useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 The DIC gets its data from the serial data bus (ALDL). It doesn't have any diagnostic capabilities. It does have a test mode so you can see VSS status, so I guess in a way you could use it for SOME diagnostics. It also displays tach, coolant temp, and volts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORBI Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 How can you go into test mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 to get into "test mode" you do exactly this: hit "DEST" then "RESET" then it will ask for mileage, type in "8192" then it will go into test mode. To get out of it just hit DEST which will show the software version, then DEST again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Intl Posted February 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 The DIC PCB is labeled with letters A thru M where the wires attach. The ALDL connector terminals are also labeled letters A thru M. Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89BuickRegalGS Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 will a DIC work in an 1989 Buick Regal. I have a digital dash... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORBI Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 What was the latest ver of DIC my is 1.18W i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 The DIC PCB is labeled with letters A thru M where the wires attach. The ALDL connector terminals are also labeled letters A thru M. Coincidence? Purely coincidental. I think there are only wires in 4 spots of the ALDL, if even that many. Yes, a DIC would work in a Regal if you could find a place to mount it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 What was the latest ver of DIC my is 1.18W i think mine's 1.8w i think theyre all like that except dohc cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 My old flaky one was 1.8W but my newer one is 2.1W and the engine code for it is "B6" which is for the 3.1L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Intl Posted February 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Found a website on installing a 1990 DIC in an 1989 Grand Prix: http://pages.prodigy.net/gearhead43/DavesGP/page12.html It's a bit different from the Olds but I was able to hookup to a 12V supply and got this result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Heheh, cool. Pretty good detective work, I had to consult my service manual to bench test mine. Looks like that one is working properly, put it in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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