mewantsa87gnx Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I am doing an oil change on my Monte myself this time around. Last time I did one I had my buddy, who works at Speedee Oil Change, drain it and refill it and change the filter at his work. It was much easier for him to do so. I brought my own filter and oil instead of using whatever they have there, when his boss asked me to hand him the oil filter he mentioned that the manual doesn't list the correct filter, it will work, but the filter that should be used on the 3.4 is longer than the stock one (pretty short stumpy one). Is this true and what would be the benefit or drawbacl of using a "longer" filter? Also if true what is the part # to pick up at Autozone, and if anyone feels like recommending a good synthetic blend 5w30 I wouldn't mind. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I use the longer 3980 in nearly any engine I come across. I have one in my 3.1, 3400, 3800, and I put one on my friend's '97 L67. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizin Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I had the same thing when I did my first oil change in my lumina. For the first 10 years of its life, the chevy dealership did the oil changes. The used the oil filter for the z34. It has the same threads but is longer. When I went to change it, I realized it was a different filter. I called around and every dealer gave me the part number off the filter that was being used and all the autoparts stores gave me the shorter filter number. I even went on K&N and Fram's sites and they listed the shorter filter so that is what I used. I don't think a shorter or longer filter matters, just that the threads are the same. Hey look at it this way more filter more filtration. As for oil, MOBIL 1 all the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mewantsa87gnx Posted June 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I would put mobil 1 in it if it was run on full synthetic since its was taken of the assembly line, seeing as none of the past owners did, I see no point in wasting money to put full synthetic in it has never seen anything but regular oil. I heard that using full synthetic when the car has never been run on full synthetic offers no advantages, true? PS. what is the part number for the longer oil filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 PS. what is the part number for the longer oil filter? I use the longer 3980 in nearly any engine I come across. I have one in my 3.1, 3400, 3800, and I put one on my friend's '97 L67. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 PF 52 is the delco p/n. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Apparently they're the same, lol. Half of my old filters say 3980, the others say PF52. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 damn, i should have gotten a PF-52 (or equivalent NAPA brand) when i changed the oil in my SSE the other day :? the one i got from NAPA looks more like a PF-47. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CutlassSLCoupe Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I use the longer filter on my 3100 now...I think its Purolator L24011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizin Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 I heard that using full synthetic when the car has never been run on full synthetic offers no advantages, true? ? according to some really reliable websites and people I have spoken to, they say this a myth. Yes it would have been better from the beginning BUT it is sorta like a 60year old man that smokes. He could smoke till he dies or quit now an live 5-10 years longer. Just an anology, not downing smoker. But don't want to turn this into synthetic or mineral based oil threads. So I guess using the PF-47 or the PF-52 is fine. I am running inot the same thing with my gf camaro (3800). She also takes the 47 but if I go buy a lot of 12 filters from ebay, I am going to change her to the 52 also. Whatcha think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 damn, i should have gotten a PF-52 (or equivalent NAPA brand) when i changed the oil in my SSE the other day :? the one i got from NAPA looks more like a PF-47.I bet you got a 1040 didn't ya? 1036 is the PF-52 equivalent. Just ask for a filter for a 2000 4.3L Blazer if they ask for the vehicle. (or tell them the # lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 i totally forget the PN. it's a NAPA gold filter though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 i totally forget the PN. it's a NAPA gold filter though.1040 is the pf47. So if it's small that would be it lol. I got quite a few of each left since I stocked up at napa's last sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I'm sure I have posted this before.... http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html I use a PF52 in place of a PF47 on my Beretta. I like it because I get more filter area....and it will take all 5 quarts from the M1 jug instead of only 4.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mewantsa87gnx Posted June 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 So general consensus is, the longer filter (AC Delco PF-52 or should I go with something other than AC Delco maybe Mobil 1 or K&N if they offer better performance/protection?) with Mobil 1 full synthetic, the money is not really an object, I just need this car to run as long as possible, a new car is not in the near or intermediate future unless I hit the lottery. However does it make sense for me to put expensive oil in there since I have to add between one to two quarts between oil changes anyway? But don't want to turn this into synthetic or mineral based oil threads. Why not I always wanted to be a part of one of those...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 i would run Mobil-1....unless you have oil leaks that need to be fixed. i run conventional in my SSE (i'm just cheap i guess), but then i use Mobil-1 in my turbo cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I think we ALL can agree that M! is the best oil on the market today. Yes it is expensive, but it is worth it. I use it in all four cars listed in my sig. I also use AC Delco filters on all four (even the Ford)....I do work at a GM dealer, so filters are like $1 for me. I could step up to the $10 M1 or $10 K&N (both made by Champion Labs)....but I don't. I hate people that use M1 with a Fram filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mewantsa87gnx Posted June 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I don't think I have any oil leaks, but I am pretty sure my sparkplugs are shit and I may be burning oil. What would be the signs of that, white smoke out of the exhaust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 White or blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 does Champion Labs make Motorcraft filters? i always use a Motorcraft FL-1A (Mustang 5.0L filter) on my 2.2 Turbo. that thing is big! they're cheap too and Wal-Mart sells them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I believe so. Its basically a Puralator filter anyways....which is made by them. I have ALWAYS been told to use the filter made by the vechiles OEM part division (AC Delco/Motorcraft/Mopar). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I have ALWAYS been told to use the filter made by the vechiles OEM part division (AC Delco/Motorcraft/Mopar). hmmm why is that? i don't see what difference it could make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I use NAPA filters, made by Wix or something and are suppose to be good. It's funny, the same exact filter is used on the 3100 (and other V6s) as on the 2.2L Sunfire.. lol. I got the bigger one though )no way I'm putting a Sunfire filter on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 The PF47 is pimairly used on all of the FWD GM cars........from the 2.2 to the L67. The PF52 is mainly used on the 4.3L and 5.7 R. The PF46 (about the same size as a 47) is used on all of the Gen III V8s (4.8, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0)....Corvette, Camaro, Silverado, Express. The Ecotec uses an internal filter. 8100s use the PF454, oddly enough. 6.5T Diesels use the PF1218. Isuzu uses the same Isuzu filter in their entire line up (other than their verison of the Trail Blazer of course). The Inline 4, 5, and 6 cylinders in S/T trucks use a PF61. For oil capacity in quarts, add one to the number of cylinders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mewantsa87gnx Posted June 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 What's the Mobil 1 part number correspondent to the PF-52/3980, maybe I will go with the Mobil 1 oil filter. Also an off subject question but what spark plugs do you guys recommend for the DOHC 3.4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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