sonyman87 Posted May 3, 2005 Report Posted May 3, 2005 So far today 9:30am start car take kids to daycare + pickup my dad to go eat 10:00am arive at McDs eat 10:40am arive at post office 10:58am leave post office run out of gas 1! ONE bock from the gas station! SOB. 11:05 Arive at Gas station via pushing and dodging traffic with hazord lights. 11:30 Still at gas station, the car fails to start. No fuel preasure, checked at injectors via the releaf valve. very little or no preasure preasent. 11:40 ride arives to take us home pick up another vehicle. I buy a fuel filter and i headed out back to the car. 12:10 Fuel filter installed then the car started WOOT! 12:11 Car died when using gas pedal! SOB 12:15 still trying to figure it out, dies with load on motor 12:16 jump backinto truck, head to local parts stores for Fuel pump 12:45 Find a nice Carter pump and strainer for $80 not cheepest but good 1:30 return to car, starts up keeping rpms under 3k and drive to local autoshop. Cant get to it until tomarrow. Im suppose to be on my way to STL right now. and i start my new job Wensday at 8am! My backup car is 30 miles away and uninsured so im barrowing one of my parents backup cars Shit happens + its only the 2nd time in the past 3 weeks my car has been to a shop. Im just hopeing that the fuel pump is all that is wrong with it this time. Quote
94CutlassSLCoupe Posted May 3, 2005 Report Posted May 3, 2005 Its tough luck but I don't think you can be too pissed at it since it has what, 185k on it? Quote
sonyman87 Posted May 3, 2005 Author Report Posted May 3, 2005 Its tough luck but I don't think you can be too pissed at it since it has what, 185k on it? pump died at 185,835.4 Quote
Brian P Posted May 3, 2005 Report Posted May 3, 2005 Return the Carter pump!!!!!! That's the one I just put into my sisters Cutlass, and it doesn't hold fuel pressure with key on/engine off. The only problem it really causes is hard starting when you start it the first time of the day, but that's something I'd rather not have happen. i've replaced the regulator when I did the pump, and I tested the FPR which is good. Quote
sonyman87 Posted May 4, 2005 Author Report Posted May 4, 2005 Return the Carter pump!!!!!! That's the one I just put into my sisters Cutlass, and it doesn't hold fuel pressure with key on/engine off. The only problem it really causes is hard starting when you start it the first time of the day, but that's something I'd rather not have happen. i've replaced the regulator when I did the pump, and I tested the FPR which is good. is that for all models? or was that a defect? its a little late to switch out the pumps there is no way i could swap it out with another one with the car already sitting in the shop and they don’t open until im at work in the morning.. Botch, and some generic brand were the only other options. NO AC Delco, No Oem available without a week or more wait. <the suck town> Quote
Brian P Posted May 4, 2005 Report Posted May 4, 2005 I couldn't tell ya. I have the same pump as you (obviously) but QC probably sucks in that company. After I installed it I got feedback from a couple mechanics about the shit luck they've had with them. Quote
White93z34 Posted May 4, 2005 Report Posted May 4, 2005 we refuse to use carter pumps in cars we get in at work, after so long you get sick of doing the job twice. Quote
DiscoStudd Posted May 4, 2005 Report Posted May 4, 2005 I had a fuel pump problem on my wife's old 96 Lumina a couple of years ago. It was completely intermittant, so I just figured it was the fuel pump (since the same symptoms popped up on her old 93 Cavalier 6 months earlier.) After changing the fuel pump, a day went by and the same shit started happening again. I noticed that I could get it to run if I tapped on the FP relay with the head of a screwdriver. After this discovery, I pulled the FP relay, sanded down the terminals, and bent them out a tiny bit then reinstalled it. Problem never came back after that... Quote
supreme_style21 Posted May 4, 2005 Report Posted May 4, 2005 The specs that Carter holds their products to are quite... slack. Quote
Brian P Posted May 4, 2005 Report Posted May 4, 2005 The specs that Carter holds their products to are quite... slack. Slack....they wouldn't qualify for a piss pump when I turn 90. Quote
supreme_style21 Posted May 4, 2005 Report Posted May 4, 2005 The specs that Carter holds their products to are quite... slack. Slack....they wouldn't qualify for a piss pump when I turn 90. Exactly. Ever work with a Carter carb? Yikes. A chunk of granite with holes drilled in it would function better. Quote
sonyman87 Posted May 6, 2005 Author Report Posted May 6, 2005 well i guess i just got lucky like win the lotto lucky b/c it holds fuel preasure when the car is off and seems to be doing one hell of a job so far. still to early to tell about reliability after 30days of no trouble i think by then if it hasnt failed yet then it dont think it will. BTW either my ass dyno is broken or it actualy helped my cars mid-topend I will try and get a g-tech sometime to see how its running soon for a better comparison. as for actual numbers on the fuel preasure the stock pump held 35psi at idle and stayed at 35psi or less while reving the motor never went up the carter pump held 34psi at idle and went 42psi+ at 2000rpms no need to rev higher im guessing we are suppose to get 45-47psi above 5000rpms no idea. all i know is that it went to 42+ after 2grand and up. Quote
supreme_style21 Posted May 6, 2005 Report Posted May 6, 2005 Typically, an electric fuel pump doesn't make your car faster. Quote
sonyman87 Posted May 6, 2005 Author Report Posted May 6, 2005 Typically, an electric fuel pump doesn't make your car faster. if the motor wasnt getting enough gas then i think it would. if you remember i posted a while ago about the car feeing slower. It just feels like the pump brought it back to life Quote
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