What can i swap into my grand prick?

[slick]

so the 3.4 would fit perfectly into my 89 2.8?

Once again, You'd have to swap your subframe to the '91-96 3.4/3800 one.

 

Thus, making the swap not a direct bolt in from what you currently have.

[Fat Ryan]

thats it? just a subframe? how much do you think that'd cost?

[slick]

thats it? just a subframe? how much do you think that'd cost?

 

Oh, your gonna have it done?

[Fat Ryan]

well, yeah, i dont exactly have the tools for an engine swap. i know someone who will put in a new engine for me for like ~$400. so i just want to know what i could swap in. i didnt want it to be hard cause then it'll cost me more in labor. and theres a better chance that the guy will screw something up too.

[slick]

If that is the case, then why are you wanting to swap the subframe as well? That's just more work than $400 worth. LIKE I SAID, go 3X00.

[5speedz34]

. and theres a better chance that the guy will screw something up too.

 

 

 

[Fat Ryan]

yes, it is. thats why i was worried. but i cant go 3x00 if the 3400 needs a new subframe.

[Fat Ryan]

ok, i think theres some confusion here. im assuming that any 3x00 is a 3.x. cause thats how it is with every other GM ive seen. is the 3.4 not a 3400?

[terryk2003]

ok, i think theres some confusion here. im assuming that any 3x00 is a 3.x. cause thats how it is with every other GM ive seen. is the 3.4 not a 3400?

 

well, there is a 3.4 TDC (twin dual cam (basically dual overhead cam), then there's a 3400 which is just a pushrod v6 (basically a bored out 3100)

[Fat Ryan]

which is the easiest swap?

[5speedz34]

Difficulty is about the same, for a completely different machine I would go with a 3.4 TDC, but the maitenance is something to stay on top of. But for something easy go with a 3400 and those things will run forever.

 

Also, is this going into a 5speed?

[Fat Ryan]

im looking for the easiest swap thats better than the 2.8. also it would be alot better if it mated with my 2.8's 5spd too. it'd save me some more $$$.

[Fat Ryan]

and which engines have the most problems? which ones have the fuel injector problems?

[slick]

You better just go with the 3400. It will be about the least trouble free and more bang for the buck swap.

[Fat Ryan]

what does that require for the swap? and what cars can they be found in (models, years)?

[slick]

Doesn't require all that much: http://www.3400swap.com/

[Fat Ryan]

Doesn't require all that much: http://www.3400swap.com/

thats only for cars that are 94-98 3100s. i have an 89 2.8

[slick]

Doesn't require all that much: http://www.3400swap.com/

thats only for cars that are 94-98 3100s. i have an 89 2.8

 

I'll PM patgizz. He had an early 90's lumina with a 3400 in it. It's pretty much a direct bolt in and go. A few minor things have to be done, but its nothing huge.

[Fat Ryan]

also, the site said that the 5spds dont work with it...

[slick]

I will give you proof that a 5 speed will work with a 3400. How many pictures and links of proof do you want?

[cutlsp]

if you upgrade to a 93+ sub frame you won't have the subframe problems we have with these cars of the 88-91 year models. plus you can swap in a 3400 and have fun

[gp90se]

4g65

 

 

wtf?

 

mitsu motor

 

Go find a yard with a totalled w-body thats 91+, unplug the firewall harness, unbolt the subframe/shocks/steering column and whatever elses holds it in, do the same thing to yours and slide it under ya car, bolt the newer subframe with motor/tranny attacked, plug it all in, ya done

[FastSE2DR]

no no no a 4g65 is not a mitsu motor...trust me...i think you mean 4g63...atleast i hope you do

[gp90se]

sure why not, rice is rice

[FastSE2DR]

ok you can call my 4g63 rice all you want...wanna make it a dig or a roll? ill show you whos rice