red92s Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Trying to get rid of the 4t60 in my car seems to be so difficult, Anyway one thing always seemed to stick out as strange with these things. If a cavalier z24 had 2.8/3.1 mpfi and a Getrag 282, why then is it that they have a different input shaft? or is it that this is only for the ones with the 4 cylinder. Or is that one of the reasons gm struggled so much through the 1990s I really want that 5 speed swap before i go to college in august. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Are you asking why the 4T60 and Getrag 282 have different input shafts????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red92s Posted April 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 To clarify my point: It would be very illogical to think a 4t60 and a 282 would have the same input shaft. There is a bit of a discrepancy between a Torque converter and a typical clutch. However what i would like to know: If i were to find a Cavalier Z24, the type with either a 2.8 or 3.1 dependent on the year, that had a getrag trans could i pull the trans and use it. I know axles and linkages would be different. Also some TGPs have 284s in them, are they modified or will a 3.1 bolt up to a 284. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlsp Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 uh you want to find a w-body with a 5spd in it. don't even think that a Jbody 5spd will work with your motor since a j body isn't as wide as a w-body. i would personally look around for a w-body with a 5spd or find someone that has a spare setup lying around doing nothing. :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 James, that's what he just said. He knows that the halfshafts are different lenghs. A J-body 282 will work with the 3.1, it came that way in the J-bodies anyway. What the fuck does width have to do with anything? You'll just need W-body halfshafts. TGP's never came with a 5-speed from the factory, and the people that did swap a 5-speed in for the most part used the 282. I believe skalor used a 284, but I'm not sure. There are no replacement parts for the 284 available any longer. The 282 would be a much wiser choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlsp Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 well the problem with most w-body half shafts i have found is that their housing is cracked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Let not forget that W 282s have different gearing than J and L 282s.... 2.8/3.1 W... 1st 3.77 2nd 2.19 3rd 1.38 4th 1.03 5th 0.81 FDR 3.61 2.8/3.1 J and L.... 1st 3.50 2nd 2.05 3rd 1.38 4th 0.94 5th 0.72 FDR 3.61 284 gearing.... 1st 3.46 2nd 2.28 3rd 1.48 4th 1.09 5th 0.72 FDR 3.67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 The real difference is the W-body 5 speeds got the intermediate shaft to make up for non-equal driveshafts. IIRC- the W-body shaft will bolt up to any 282. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red92s Posted April 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Thanks for clearing that up, so I guess the axles like a 284 are made of unobtanium, nothing is ever easy with these cars is it? Theres a junkyard in PA called Harrys U Pull it they claim its the largest in the world, if i dont find something there, i guess ill just wait around for someone to come up with a 282 or some turbo parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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