93CutlassSupreme Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 2.8, Getrag 282 i can barely get the shifter into any gear. sometimes the shifter slips into gear normally, other times it won't go into any gear at all and i have to play around with it and hold up traffic. it basically stiffens up and will move side to side in neutral, but won't slide into any gear. wtf? are my shift cables shot? i sprayed some wd-40 where the cables meet the trans, and on that spring, and inside the shift boot, but it didn't do anything can anyone tell me what's wrong? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 sounds like you need to bleed the clutch hydraulic system. are either your clutch master cyinder or slave cylinder leaking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Does it grind when you are trying to shift gears? If so this happens to my RX-7 two years ago..the slave cylinder thing on the firewall that holds the brake fluid (clutch fluid I guess) started leaking and all the fluid leaked out which resulted in the clutch falling to the floor over winter when the car weas in storage. So as TurboSedan said I'd try to bleed the system and see what happens as that is a cheaper fix. If you bleed it and it starts working again then you have a leak somewhere.. - Jeff L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted March 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 how do i bleed the clutch master cylinder? i checked the fluid and it's almost full, and very clean. i've never topped it off either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 i bleed my clutch hydraulic system much like i bleed brakes. - top off the clutch fluid reservoir - knock the roll pin out of the slave cylinder and pull the line out of it. inspect the o-ring for damage while you're at it and replace if necessary - remove the 2 13mm nuts holding the slave cylinder in place and remove it from the transmission. drain the old fluid out of it and set it aside. - submerse the end of the hydraulic line into a clear container filled with new clean brake fluid - have a friend slowly pump the clutch over & over again while you watch the dirty fluid and bubbles come out of the end of the line. make sure the end of the line stays submersed (doh) - also make sure the fluid in the reservoir doesn't go too low while you do this and refill as needed - continue slowly pumping the clutch pedal until no more air bubbles or dirty fluid comes out of the line. then tell your friend to keep the clutch pedal down to the floor while you fill the slave cylinder.... - hold the slave cylinder at a 45* angle and fill it up with new clean brake fluid. - with clutch pedal still to the floor pull the line out of the container and insert the end back into the slave cylinder. push the roll pin back into place. keep the clutch pedal to the floor until the roll pin is back in place - top off the fluid reservoir and.... - test drive. this has always worked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1990lumina Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Here is Chapter 8 from my repair book in its entirity (spelling?) Might be of some help as well.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/1990lumina/clutch/1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/1990lumina/clutch/2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/1990lumina/clutch/3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/1990lumina/clutch/4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/1990lumina/clutch/5.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/1990lumina/clutch/6.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/1990lumina/clutch/7.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/1990lumina/clutch/8.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/1990lumina/clutch/9.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/1990lumina/clutch/10.jpg Hope you can get things working again man! EDIT: Shit that's bad quality...oh well I think TurboSedans post is helpful enough lol - Jeff L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted March 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 by slave cylinder, you guys mean actuator, right? what exactly do you guys mean by slave cylinder? Jeff's prodecure is different from Josh's...i guess tool J36221 (whatever the fuck that is) isn't required to disconnect the hydraulic line...how do you disconnect that line? is removing the actuator from the trans necessary? My GM manual says "prior to any vehicle service that requires the removal of the actuator, the master cylinder pushrod must be disconnected from the clutch pedal" and "permanent damage to actuator will occur if clutch pedal is depressed while system is not resisted by clutch loads" wtf? bear with me, i've never worked on a manual trans before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 the slave cylinder bolts to the transmission with two nuts. the master cylinder is on the firewall. you could look at it like "the master controls the slave" so to speak. the slave cylinder is what actually actuates the clutch throwout bearing arm. you need to disconnect the line from it and then unbolt the slave cylinder from the transmission (two 13mm nuts). you don't need a special tool to disconnect the hydraulic line from the slave cylinder; just use a small punch and a hammer and tap the roll pin out. then pull the line right out of the slave cylinder. just bleed the clutch hydrualics as if you were bleeding brakes.... you don't have to do anything to the master cylinder at all when bleeding the system. don't disconnect the clutch pedal from it or anything like that. you do however need to make sure the fluid level stays high enough in the reservoir (like you do when you bleed brakes) but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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