wally05 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 Hey all, I was just pondering a minor intake mod for my HO quad 4. Though, I have been reading that cone filters produce torque loss? Which would worry me seeing that these 4 cylinders already have small low end power... any suggestions? Should I just do a drop in KN and forget about it? Korey Quote
slick Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 Actually, those Quad 4's take well to mods. Pretty much anything you do to it will help out some. I suggest though that if you are planning on a cone filter, have it located down near the bumper, or in the fenderwell, that way you are getting cold air. Quote
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 I'd put one on any OHC engine since they are higher reving HP engines. Different for pushrods engines, where torque is more important. Quote
wally05 Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Posted March 23, 2005 Slick, I would place it near the bumper, but I drive this car in the winter, wouldn't I have to worry about getting snow into it? The fenderwell sounds like a good idea. Any little write-ups on this? I'm going to search, I just thought I'd ask. Korey Quote
slick Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 You should be fine with it down in that area. As for the snow and stuff, if it is in the fenderwell, you would be ok. Down near the bumper, I would suggest making some sort of shield to block the stuff from entering the intake. As for a write up, sorry. There are none. But, by the battery, there are holes that you can run your tubing down into. Quote
wally05 Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Posted March 23, 2005 Sounds good. I will have to try it out. Korey Quote
wally05 Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Posted March 23, 2005 Oh yeah, what type of tubing do you recommend? Korey Quote
slick Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 2.5"-3" tubing. An exhaust shop should be able to make the bends you need, unless you buy the tubing pre-bent and make your intake yourself. Quote
JoroCorona Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 APC Cone filter - 6 dollars PVC Piping - 3 dollars PVC elbow - 1.50 Building your own intake from scratch priceless. Quote
Aaron Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 \ said: APC Cone filter - 6 dollarsPVC Piping - 3 dollars PVC elbow - 1.50 Building your own intake from scratch priceless. Opening your hood and having the embarassment of people seeing that you used plastic for your intake is priceless. Quote
dbtk2 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 \ said: Opening your hood and having the embarassment of people seeing that you used plastic for your intake is priceless. After doing the previous, closing the hood and racing them and beating them after they laughed at your crappy intake is priceless. Shawn Quote
Aaron Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 \ said: \ said: Opening your hood and having the embarassment of people seeing that you used plastic for your intake is priceless. After doing the previous, closing the hood and racing them and beating them after they laughed at your crappy intake is priceless. Shawn It is very rare that a simple air intake will make you win a race, I have had maybe 1 or 2 races that have been that close, and I have raced hundreds if not thousands of cars. Trust me, I'd much rather have the 20 people a night say "damn that is clean" over winning a single race against a person I won't ever see again. Quote
dbtk2 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 Some people just don't get a simple joke. I wasn't saying an air intake would win you a race. Just that looks don't make you go faster. It doesn't have to look good to work well. So even though it might look shitty, doesn't mean its not gonna work well. Shawn Quote
digitaloutsider Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 \ said: APC Cone filter - 6 dollarsPVC Piping - 3 dollars PVC elbow - 1.50 Building your own intake from scratch priceless. Where can you get a cone for $6?! :shock: Quote
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 Just paint it with some chrome colored paint.. What about just wrapping regular rubber hose (from stock airbox) around it? That way it looks almost stock.. I've seen APC cone filter for $29 CND (probalby $20US). Also I think it's stupid paying like $200 for a bent piece of shiney metal. But I suppose if I had a car worth doing it I would. Quote
Aaron Posted March 24, 2005 Report Posted March 24, 2005 \ said: Also I think it's stupid paying like $200 for a bent piece of shiney metal. But I suppose if I had a car worth doing it I would. I paid less than 150, and it came welded perfectly, with a brand name cone, all connectors, a silicone reinforced coupler, and a mandrel bent, powdercoated aluminum intake. Quote
wally05 Posted March 25, 2005 Author Report Posted March 25, 2005 I would rather build it myself and dress it up (paint and such). I'm not big on letting shops do stuff for me anymore, I have too little money to trust to any shop. lol Korey Quote
Canada Posted March 25, 2005 Report Posted March 25, 2005 You guys are fucking ghetto.....espessically you Billy (C-BADASS) and Joro. I mean really......PVC? And then you guys contiune to say, it will make you loose low end torque. Prove it. Post one single dyno chart that wasn't made by some idiot that doesn't know torque converter lockup from his ass. Even if you can (which you can't), so you loose 3 ft-lbs of torque from idle to 3k. Even with the wide as ratios of the 4T60-E you are never below that point at WOT properly driven. This forum kills me sometimes......there are actually some pretty smart people around here that actually know whats going on. Yet the idiots that work with computers all day long think they actually know something.....and contuine to give the biggest pile of misinformation after they have been shown time and time again that they were actually wrong in their thinking. If you are a broke ass college student, heres what you do.........don't touch your fucking car until you can do it right. Quote
Aaron Posted March 25, 2005 Report Posted March 25, 2005 I agree, and it is what I've also been trying to say this entire time. Quote
wally05 Posted March 25, 2005 Author Report Posted March 25, 2005 Man, are you calling me an asshole or what? I just said that I'VE READ that you loose torque. Do me a favor, stick to the topic that I ask about, don't come on here talking crap. If they have suggestions, they can give them. Geez, if PVC pipe is what works, hell, they can use it. Some people don't have the money to toss $150 in a freaking hunk of tubing (nothing against you, Aaron, just saying). Geez, man, lay the hell off. Korey Quote
slick Posted March 25, 2005 Report Posted March 25, 2005 \ said: If you are a broke ass college student, heres what you do.........don't touch your fucking car until you can do it right. I'm a broke ass college student and still do it right. Quote
Aaron Posted March 25, 2005 Report Posted March 25, 2005 Me too, but I am only broke becuz every dime I get goes to doing it right. Quote
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