Grand Moff Joseph Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I know that a couple of people here have recently figured out a way to switch out the gauge glusters in their Luminas with a UB3 cluster from a Cutlass. I would like to do the same, but would like two things (hopefully)... 1. To the few people that got this to work, is there anyway any of you could create a howto document for this conversion? 2. Where in the heck can I procure a UB3 cluster? I know the junkyard is always an option, but is there a easy way to test them to see if they work correctly/at all? Thanx! GMJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solid_raiden223 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Ask people IMO its kind of a custom build the whole time.... but maybe i'm wrong.... and the junkyard is gonna have to be the place... most of them work if the have not been smashed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rockstar Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Bring a jump box/battery w/ cables to a jy Cutlass.. Test the iggy sys. And see if it works.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Joseph Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 good point on needing the jumpbox steve...thanx! I looked at the video of someone's Z34 with a UB3 in it, and it looks like there is a lot of blank space on the cluster...is that how all of the UB3s look, or what? Probably the most useful thing for me (and any others wanting to do this) would be a list of the wiring pattern needed for the connecter plug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggar Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I'll give you some help. Here are some pics of the UB3 in a Cutty (snagged from google) Here's the UB3 with no cover or lens on it The cover has the warning light names printed on it. As you can see the UB3 in it's orginal form is oblong. I plan to do a write up on this topic soon I am getting emails and PM's for it. I just need to get another UB3 out of the Junkyard for showing various parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Joseph Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 So, i take it that some modifications to the lumina's cluster housing will need to be done to make the UB3 fit properly? Thanx for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggar Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 So, i take it that some modifications to the lumina's cluster housing will need to be done to make the UB3 fit properly? Well depends on how you tackle it. Contact me on Yahoo daggar2k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baddflash Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I fair bit of modification to the lumina cluster is required, as well you need to find a spot for the control buttons, plus rewire the harness and add a few wires. I posted the Lumina-cutty wiring in another thread http://www.w-body.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26145&highlight=lumina+digital There's gonna be a lot of lumina's with digi dash's and a lot of cuttys with out. Cutty owners better lock your doors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Joseph Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 There's gonna be a lot of lumina's with digi dash's and a lot of cuttys with out. Cutty owners better lock your doors! LOL...I can see steve robbing everyone's car till he finds the parts he needs...(j/k) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rockstar Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Joseph Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 for the trip/reset buttons, would it be too much trouble to just put them in the same place they normally would (on the cluster housing itself)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal_GS_1989 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 How come no one ever decided to swap a regal UB3 cluster into another W. Because the Regal digi cluster look a lot better than the cutty's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 whats with lumina owners and the influx of part bastardization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlsp Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 their cars didn't get cool options like the cutlasses and gps so they are modding their luminas with those parts. its cool though it makes their cars different but before to much longer all of them are going to have ub3s so they won't be different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoroCorona Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I think its funny how Ross complains that we, the lumina drivers bastardize our cars when in his sig, he proclaims himself as a parts Bastardizer. Well, you see, Since obviously Luminas stay running longer then Grand Prixs and Cutlasses, we figure since we didn't get it at birth means we should get organ donations from other dead cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlsp Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 WTF are you talking about my cutlass has more miles on it then a lot of these luminas and its driving as good as it did when it was new :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I think its funny how Ross complains that we, the lumina drivers bastardize our cars when in his sig, he proclaims himself as a parts Bastardizer. Well, you see, Since obviously Luminas stay running longer then Grand Prixs and Cutlasses, we figure since we didn't get it at birth means we should get organ donations from other dead cars. I bastardize parts from other grand prix's... not parts from other models... and grand prix's and cuttys will outlive your POS luminas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Hi, I've read as much as I can find about changing out the base cluster and putting in the UB3, it all seemed pretty straightforward... I've got a '90 Cutlass Supreme SL with the base cluster. I recently got a UB3 cluster from, you guessed it, a '90 CSSL... So, when I come to swap the clusters, I find that the 32-pin socket on the UB3 is slightly different to the one on my base cluster, so my 32 pin plug won't fit..! Any help, suggestions, places where I can get a suitable plug or some sort of adapter..? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I also just noticed that the 'UB3' cluster has a sticker on it which says "Denso" "Made in Japan" and "92" on it (though I'm 99% certain that it did come out of a '90 Supreme). The Base cluster just says "GM" on it. Dammit! This was supposed to be so simple... Oh well... any suggestions are welcome (within reason!) Albion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Check out the main page, http://www.w-body.com . There, under upgrades, is where you find out how to change the connector and rewire it. The UB3 is made by denso, and that's probably why it outlives the GM ones. I've never heard of anyone ever having a problem with a UB3. Edit: Link next post down, I'm no good with frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggar Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Albion..... http://www.w-body.com/upgrades/88-91cutlass-cluster/index.html As Requested =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Well, you see, Since obviously Luminas stay running longer then Grand Prixs and Cutlasses, we figure since we didn't get it at birth means we should get organ donations from other dead cars._________________ 1993 Lumina Z34. Crate Motor enroute. Ah, the sweet smell of irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Thanks guys, I'd already read (and even printed out) all the rewiring details from the Upgrades section, it's just that the plug itself won't fit into the new cluster. I'll re-read it in case I missed something, and thanks for helping! Albion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Well technically you need the plug from the UB3, but truthfully you can just remove the little plastic ridges from your existing connector and use it. I did on my CS when I converted it and it worked great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Thanks Justin, that's what I was considering unless I can acquire the right plug. (Someone should come up with some kind of adapter for this process and make millions selling them to clods like me Albion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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