Aaron Posted March 11, 2005 Report Posted March 11, 2005 Hey guys, can I use the 91-95 bolts for the 96 intakes, the long bolts that attach the upper to the lowe rint eh front? I think there are 7. Are the bolts the same? Update: Ok we ordered the parts today, and everything is looking up, hopefully I'll get these on and running for the dyno day. I have the following 96-97 fuel rail/injectors 96-97 upper and lower intakes LS1 75mm throttle body 90* 3" mandrel bent aluminum That is all I have so far, I am going to try and make it work with the 91-95 valve cover. I still need to get some aluminum plates, and cut them for the flanges ont he UIM and on the LS1 TB. I do not yet know what IAC or TPS I will use, it is either the 92 or the LS1 parts, probably the LS1 IAC and the 3.4 TPS. Assuming the LS1 has the nipples for the coolant lines, I am going to run those without doing the bypass as its negative effects overcome the positives by far, and provide a danger to engine and heater core. I still need to get the gaskets, and some small bolts, and make an EGR block off plate. I should have all the parts by Wednesday, and I need it running right by Friday. Quote
slick Posted March 11, 2005 Report Posted March 11, 2005 I would not see why not. If anything, give them a try. But, I don't remember anyone mentioning needing new bolts as well. Quote
Aaron Posted March 11, 2005 Author Report Posted March 11, 2005 I can't give them a try. Oh well, we shall see...Let's get an update here... Quote
99RegalGS Posted March 12, 2005 Report Posted March 12, 2005 Do you have the 96,97 coolant bypass tube that runs from the water pump to the lower intake? Quote
slick Posted March 12, 2005 Report Posted March 12, 2005 Will the older style thermostat housing work with the newer intakes or not? Quote
99RegalGS Posted March 12, 2005 Report Posted March 12, 2005 Don't think it will. I just swapped the whole thing over so I'm not positive. Quote
slick Posted March 12, 2005 Report Posted March 12, 2005 Well, thats good for me. I have one here. Kinda sucks for Aaron though. Looks like he will have to find one. Quote
99RegalGS Posted March 12, 2005 Report Posted March 12, 2005 No it will not work. Just looked at my intake vs. the 91-95 intake. The 96,97 intake thermostat is horizontal and the 91-95 intake thermostat is vertical. Here are pics comparing. Mine (96): Here Pic taken from cardomain. Here Quote
slick Posted March 12, 2005 Report Posted March 12, 2005 Yeah, that is true. Now that I think about it when I was swapping my intake gaskets, i remember the thermostat neck sticking upwards, where as this one sticks outwards. Quote
Aaron Posted March 17, 2005 Author Report Posted March 17, 2005 I can't get the fucking lower intake manifold to bolt up for the life of me. The holes just won't line up, and it is pissing me off. THey need to sink down and crush the gaskets, but they won't do it. So I doubt I will have it running anytime soon, and no dyno. Just a little update... Quote
99RegalGS Posted March 18, 2005 Report Posted March 18, 2005 Ran into the same problem. Here's what you do. Get one bolt in the center just barely started. Then push down on the other side and start that bolt. Tighten each bolt down a little. Then start putting in the rest of the bolts. Quote
Aaron Posted March 18, 2005 Author Report Posted March 18, 2005 I broke the lower intake trying to force it, so I won't be doing this until May. BUt thnaks regalgs, you have been more than helpful! Quote
slick Posted March 18, 2005 Report Posted March 18, 2005 Ran into the same problem. Here's what you do. Get one bolt in the center just barely started. Then push down on the other side and start that bolt. Tighten each bolt down a little. Then start putting in the rest of the bolts. I will definately keep that in mind for when I finally get around to swapping my intakes. Quote
99RegalGS Posted March 18, 2005 Report Posted March 18, 2005 I broke the lower intake trying to force it, so I won't be doing this until May. BUt thnaks regalgs, you have been more than helpful! How bad did it break? No problem helping out, I'm glad I can help. I will definately keep that in mind for when I finally get around to swapping my intakes. Yeah, It took me about 20 minutes of tinkering before I figured this out. JUST BE SURE TO USE 96,97 LOWER INTAKE GASKETS!!!! Right Aaron? Quote
slick Posted March 18, 2005 Report Posted March 18, 2005 IIRC, he said he broke a corner off of it. Basically, the way it sounds from talking to him, it's useless. Quote
Aaron Posted March 18, 2005 Author Report Posted March 18, 2005 Right. It broke a corner off of it, so it can't be used. Oh well, I'm pissed, but now I don't have to rush it. What did you do about the coolant lines to it? They aren't tapped for a plug or anything. Quote
99RegalGS Posted March 19, 2005 Report Posted March 19, 2005 Right. It broke a corner off of it, so it can't be used. Oh well, I'm pissed, but now I don't have to rush it. What did you do about the coolant lines to it? They aren't tapped for a plug or anything. Oh, I'd like to see a pic of it once if possible. I don't remember a tapped hole for one of the coolant lines. I can look tomorrow though. Quote
slick Posted March 19, 2005 Report Posted March 19, 2005 What did I have to modify for the vacuum lines again? Quote
99RegalGS Posted March 19, 2005 Report Posted March 19, 2005 Depends on how many 96,97 components you're going to use like the 96,97 purge solenoid, and the MAP are in different spots. http://www.buickv6.com/Pictures/Sean%20Stuff/Engine.jpg might be able to get an idea from that pic. I kept the 91-95 MAP and purge solenoid locations also Quote
Aaron Posted March 19, 2005 Author Report Posted March 19, 2005 Well just make sure all of your vac line shave a vac source. The two coolant outlets from the 96-97 intakes, one goes to the TB, the other feeds the heater core. Neither in the LIM are threaded, how do you attach them? Quote
99RegalGS Posted March 19, 2005 Report Posted March 19, 2005 oh, those. They both use O-Rings. the 96,97 coolant bypass tube has a bolt that holds it in, similar for the intake arm. Quote
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