rico_20002 Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 what do I need to do this ? And yes I searched. I have everything for the 3300. will it bolt into my cradle? any help please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 3300? You mean the old 90-degree 3300? If so, do you really NEED to install this engine? Because if not, I wouldn't bother. If you have to mount it in same way as a 3800 Series I, then you will only have the mounts on the cradle for it if your car is a 91+ (and some 90's will have the mounts too, but not all). You'd also need to swap 3800 brackets off the engine onto the 3300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico_20002 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Its a 91. it had a 3.1. if the 3300 wont work what can I put in it. or is there any way I can make it work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 3300 = pos. A friend of a friend had one in his Cutlass Ciera and told me it was even more of a dog than MY Cutlass Supreme.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 it would be just as much work to put the 3300 in as it would to put a 3800 in....and the 3300 is pretty shitty too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 There was no W-Body that came with the 3300, so you'll need the brackets, and possibly a computer chip, as I don't know if any of the stock computers are calibrated for that engine. But I also don't know much about computers, so I'd honestly put a Series I 3800 in there, they're a dime a dozen, and decently powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico_20002 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 so no one has put a 3300 in w-body. will it bolt up to my trany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 so no one has put a 3300 in w-body. will it bolt up to my trany? What tranny do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico_20002 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 I have no Idea 4-speed the one it came with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 I have no Idea 4-speed the one it came with Wonderful. *sigh* What car do you have, year, engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico_20002 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 its a 91 lumina euro 3.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 its a 91 lumina euro 3.1 Why exactly do you want to put a 3300 in there? Do you have one laying around or something? My point is that you're probably going to be less than satisfied with this engine, and it may not bolt up to the 4T60/E you have. I'd just find another 3.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 I beat a V6 Grand Am (pretty sure it was one of those 3300s) with my 1988 Grand Prix with the 2.8. I beat it 3 times from a stoplight. POS engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Newsflash: The 3300 is an underpowered piece of shit. Either swap in a decent 90-degree-V6 like the Series I 3800 or don't do anything at all. Plus, I'd learn A LITTLE about my car before I even talked about swapping engines around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico_20002 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 yea I have 3300 all most brand new. I had a 93 grand am with 3300 in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 yea I have 3300 all most brand new. I had a 93 grand am with 3300 in it Sell it on EBay, and go get a 3100 or 3.1 engine. You can get a 3.1 for real cheap from a junkyard, I'd be willing to wager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Let me say this once more: Stay away from that engine unless you want your Lumina to be slower than it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico_20002 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 what about the wire harnes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico_20002 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 what about a 3.4 out of a 99 grand am. would that work better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Yes. A 3400 is a much better choice. Just requires more work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico_20002 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 what kind of more work do u mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 what kind of more work do u mean http://www.3400swap.com/faq.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay3800 Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 it would be just as much work to put the 3300 in as it would to put a 3800 in....and the 3300 is pretty shitty too... 3300 is FAR from shitty. It has identical power ratings as the 3100, but with a broader torque band (TQ peaked at 2,000 and stayed flat). I think the reason they may have felt slower is they had taller final drives than the 3100's 3.33. I do agree though, that swapping in a 90° motor is not worth the added work over doing a 3400! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 IIRC, all of the 3300's were connected to the THM 125C (3T40) 3-Speed auto, so I'm not sure it would bolt right up to a 4T60 tranny. Do yourself a favor, sell the 3300 and buy a 3400. The 3400 will drop right in with no major modifications, bolt up to your tranny, and you'll be able to use the same wiring and ECM to run it. IIRC, you will need to get a custom chip burned to get it to run properly, but it will be a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than getting that 3300 to work. Plus the 3400's put out the same HP as a Series I 3800, and haul a 3500 pound W-Body around with ease... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuttySup Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 what do I need to do this ? And yes I searched. I have everything for the 3300. will it bolt into my cradle? any help pleaseWhy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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