Rabbi Posted February 24, 2005 Report Posted February 24, 2005 I cannot for the love of god get the starter out of my 91 z34,Bolts are out,oil filter is off. Still nothing. How can i get it out without lifting the engine? Is it even possible? This thing is pissing me off ! not to mension autozone wanting 79.99 for the starter PLUS core wtf? Quote
cutlsp Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 remove the cylinoid on top of the starter thats how i had to take it out of a 2.8 cutlass. not sure it will help but remember the cylinoid turns to be taken off the starter. Quote
Darksyde Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 man i just did mine and had no issues whatsoever......it was a fairly easy project. I mean a typical Z34 project. Just had to tweak the A/C line i believe about 1/4" the starter falls out with a little pressure. Or...... Quit being a pansy just kick yank pull twist tweak and swear. That usually does wonders. Quote
Rabbi Posted February 25, 2005 Author Report Posted February 25, 2005 the problem is it wont even come out of the hole. a few of the oil hose's are in the way. i will try the solenoid removal first. I was going to do this but it was getting dark. Been trying to rip her out since 3 pm, its 10 now..... Quote
DOHCRagtopguy Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 You may have to pull the oil cooler assembly to get it out. That's the way it was on my 92 Lumina Euro 3.4. Quote
Rabbi Posted February 25, 2005 Author Report Posted February 25, 2005 still cant get it out with the solonoid removed. Quote
DOHCRagtopguy Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 Did you remove the oil cooler assembly? I'm pretty sure that is necessary. Quote
JJ77 Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 The oil cooler removel is the only way to get that starter out, true me Quote
Darksyde Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 man you guys must have odd odd Z34's. I did mine without removing anything.....my buddy did his last week without removing anything. I don't understand you guys. It was a bitch coming out but nothing had to be removed at all. In either situations on my 91 and his 93. In and Out in about 30 minutes. I don't get it. Quote
Rabbi Posted February 25, 2005 Author Report Posted February 25, 2005 the oil cooler is still in, But the lines give enuf so they dont even interfeer with the removal. The problem i have are the two hose's going to where the oil filter screws on at, They are about as thick as a quarter and have no clamps on them. They seem to just slide on something but i cant get them off. Maybe they have been sealed on?? also the two manuals i have on the z34 have no listing of how to remove the oil cooler assembly. Is there any info about this online? Thanks Quote
sl3196 Posted February 25, 2005 Report Posted February 25, 2005 the oil cooler is still in, But the lines give enuf so they dont even interfeer with the removal. The problem i have are the two hose's going to where the oil filter screws on at, They are about as thick as a quarter and have no clamps on them. They seem to just slide on something but i cant get them off. Maybe they have been sealed on?? also the two manuals i have on the z34 have no listing of how to remove the oil cooler assembly. Is there any info about this online? Thanks Can you twist the hoses at all? Should break them loose. Or get one of those needle tools and loosen it up that way. Quote
Rabbi Posted February 26, 2005 Author Report Posted February 26, 2005 ive twisted as much as i can and they dont budge. They look like they are just sitting on there, No clamps or anything. what needle tool do you speak of? Quote
Canada Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 I had mine off my Grand Prix in no time.......I don't understand the problem. Quote
Darksyde Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 THE HOSES DON'T NEED TO COME OFF.....NOTHING DOES Quote
Rabbi Posted February 26, 2005 Author Report Posted February 26, 2005 well dude its not coming out for the love of god without removing anything! my buddy came over and tried,and no go (and he is a "mechanic") Im really starting to think my z34 doesnt want to be fixxed. i tried bending the cooler lines back,while pulling on the starter. Nothing i cant even get the tip of the starter out of the tranny Quote
loominaz34 Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 Is it actually moving at all? if not the Z wants to die. Don't let it. cut the starter out if you have to. Quote
cutlsp Posted February 26, 2005 Report Posted February 26, 2005 try to slide it to the passenger side then turn the part the coil goes on towards the motor. don't be afraid of getting your hands cut up thats what happens when you work on cars :? Quote
Rabbi Posted February 27, 2005 Author Report Posted February 27, 2005 Is it actually moving at all? if not the Z wants to die. Don't let it. cut the starter out if you have to. the z may want to die.....but i will get the roto zip out before i let that happen! im going to give it another go tommarow, This is getting rediculus. On top of all this crap, autozone wants 80 freakin dollars,and autovalue wants 86.99 for the starter. thats AFTER core. what in the hell is this country coming to,80 bucks for a starter????? Quote
DOHCRagtopguy Posted February 27, 2005 Report Posted February 27, 2005 You remove the oil cooler by loosening the big center bolt that the filter screws on to. Then the cooler drops down enough so that you can get to the clamps hoding the hoses on. It's a pain in the ass, especially to put it back on. Not all 3.4s have the oil cooler assembly, that may be why it was such a snap for you other guys. Quote
Darksyde Posted February 27, 2005 Report Posted February 27, 2005 don't be afraid of getting your hands cut up thats what happens when you work on cars :? Exactly Not all 3.4s have the oil cooler assembly, that may be why it was such a snap for you other guys. I do If it helps when it finally does come out the ass of the starter will be facing the ass of the car. Starter has to be pulled out a little then jammed backwards so it will come back out the front past the crossmember. You will cut yourself. Just don't worry open cuts never got worse by dipping oil in them Quote
Rabbi Posted February 27, 2005 Author Report Posted February 27, 2005 i can get the part of the starter that turns the flexplate to get about a half inch from coming out of the tranny. Ive reefed the fuck out of it, And no way in hell its coming out. The dam hose that goes to the oil filter thing is still in the way im seriously about to just cut that hose and stick a peice of bigger hose on the two peices and just silicone the fucker in place. This is the absolute most trouble any car has ever given me, Ive pulled freakin engines,swapped trannys and rebuilt top half's of engines in the time its taken me to change the starter. This is becoming quite the joke. Quote
Darksyde Posted February 27, 2005 Report Posted February 27, 2005 This is the absolute most trouble any car has ever given me, Ive pulled freakin engines,swapped trannys and rebuilt top half's of engines in the time its taken me to change the starter. LOL Welcome to the wonderful world of the 3.4 Twin DOHC W-bodies........ Learn to love it man....if ya don't these things will eat you alive. Try changin the alternator or maybe the pesky "o-ring" hell or even the rear plugs....it's all fun believe me. Quote
DOHCRagtopguy Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Dude, just take the oil cooler off, you'll save yourself grief. Quote
Rabbi Posted February 28, 2005 Author Report Posted February 28, 2005 I Dont have a socket or wrench big enuf for that bolt actually. What is it a 23mm? i tried a 21 and thats the closist one i have everything is way to big or to small Quote
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