fastbird232 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 The badge on the back says GTP, I'm sure of that much. But I was reading the VIN decoding page on the main page, and I've got J for the model digit, which reads, "Grand Prix LE 88-90, or SE 91+," instead of the digit that corresponds to the GTP model. Is there any other way of finding out whether this is a genuine GTP or simply a rebadged car? And out of curiousity, what exactly is the difference between a GTP and something like an SE or LE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockgp Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 the gtp, if i'm not mistaken, was a 3.4 tdc with b4u and that's about it.i think if a gp lacks one or the other it's a gt or se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 i thought a GTP in '89-'90 was a turbo 3.1!?... :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockgp Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 that's a tgp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuttySup Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Those charts on the main page are not entirely accurate. They say that mine is a base Cutlass Supreme, when in fact it is a Cutlass Supreme SL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbird232 Posted January 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I'm sorry, tdc and b4u mean...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I'm sorry, tdc and b4u mean...? tdc is TWIN DUAL CAM...that refers to the 3.4 TWIN DUAL CAM engine...but, i've also been wondering what all this gp stuff like B4U means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockgp Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 http://www.w-body.com/gallery/pics/88gp.jpg non b4u http://www.w-body.com/gallery/pics/96gp_se_coupe.jpg b4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 http://www.w-body.com/gallery/pics/88gp.jpg non b4u http://www.w-body.com/gallery/pics/96gp_se_coupe.jpg b4u :shock: damn...thanx!...i guess this means that i like the b4u GPs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbird232 Posted January 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Oh. I say DOHC. I get it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Well, the Non B4U wasnt an LE, like u show, it was like the TGP and 91-93 GTP Effects kit, Trim and all that good stuff, the second one is right, the B4U was the 94-96 Effects Package, The B4U just refers to the Body Style doesnt it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockgp Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Well, the Non B4U wasnt an LE, like u show, it was like the TGP and 91-93 GTP Effects kit, Trim and all that good stuff, the second one is right, the B4U was the 94-96 Effects Package, The B4U just refers to the Body Style doesnt it?? the le was the only other pic i oculd find right away that wasn't b4u. the tgp, if i recall correctly, had what was called the b4m kit. and although i'm not certain, i think the rest of the cars with miniquads were b4u. but that's a guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 B4M, thanks, but if it didnt have the effects kit, it wasnt considerd B4U or B4M, Correct? :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockgp Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 B4M, thanks, but if it didnt have the effects kit, it wasnt considerd B4U or B4M, Correct? :?: that's my understanding. but again, i could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlassdude96 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Those charts on the main page are not entirely accurate. They say that mine is a base Cutlass Supreme, when in fact it is a Cutlass Supreme SL. the chart is correct somewhat, the 88-91 Cutlass Supreme were WH and the 95-97 are WH too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 There are numerous appearance packages on the Grand Prix. Base (88-91): No fog lights, no split grille up front, no ground effects. Base (92-96 coupe): Miniquads. Nothing else. No ground effects. Base (92-96 sedan): Lightbar. Nothing else. No ground effects. BYP (88-91): Z7M front end, foglights, split grille, ground effects, dual exhaust. BYP (92-96 coupe): Miniquads, ground effects, dual exhaust. No fender flares. BYP (92-96 sedan): Lightbar. Ground effects, Dual exhaust. B4M (89-90 Turbo Grand Prix): Composite headlights, foglights, fender flares, edgier wider bumpers, ground effects. B4U (90-93 SE/GTP): Miniquads, foglights, fender flares, edgier wider bumpers, ground effects. B4U (94-96 SE/GTP): Miniquads, foglights, fender flares, rounded off wider bumpers, ground effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockgp Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 well i was close damn it. i just left out most of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 BYP (92-96 sedan): Lightbar. Ground effects, Dual exhaust. I have a lightbar, ground effects, but single exhaust. I guess I'm a deformity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Sedans did have anomolies like that. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Sedans never had Duel Exhaust, and they did have Ground Effects, so ur a bit off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broan Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 There's plenty of sedans with dual. I'm not at all sure on this, but it might be a 3.4 realted option like the hood vents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 There's plenty of sedans with dual. I'm not at all sure on this, but it might be a 3.4 realted option like the hood vents. I believe there were some GP GT's that had dual exhaust and ground effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Sedans never had Duel Exhaust, and they did have Ground Effects, so ur a bit off Sedan's had dual. My car is proof. I got my ground effects off a sedan. STE's also had dual exhaust. You're a bit off, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuttySup Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 The STE had dual exhaust, didn't it? My friend's nieghbor has one. Right on the main page: '96 SE sedan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 oh ok, i always see the 4 doors with singe exhaust, i know the TSTE's have Duel, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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