kcac Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Just wondering if anyone on this board has ever felt a certain brand of gasoline has contributed to injector problems on their car. The Milwaukee newspaper is reporting a "connection" between Citgo gas and failed injectors in GM vehicles. I put connection in quotes because the paper acknowledges that their research isn't scientific. For starters, General Motors vehicles make up the vast bulk of the problems. Second, more than 40% of the drivers experiencing problems said they purchase their gas at Citgo stations. Entire article is here http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/dec04/287536.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Speedway gas destroyed one of my fuel injectors, and clogged up the rest. my car barely ran because of Speedway gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 i've never had a problem from any gas stations around here (exxon, BP, kwikfill, 7-11, etc.) however i do recall getting a bunk tank of gas one after some flooding, but thats to be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intlcutlass Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I have never had a problem with a particular name brand, but I have gotten a bad tank of gas on occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 the only place I've gotten bad gas at was raceway in NJ. My car ran like shit on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartonmd Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I know everywhere in Indiana gets their gas from the same place, so it's a non-issue. There are 2 things that are different however... 1. additives (Shell V-power and Amaco Ultimate) 2. Fuel storage That is all. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan94Z34 Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I will never buy gas from a Casey's gas station ever again. The car ran like shit every time I filled my car at one. Its not just one station but several I have tried. I later learned that their gas has a high water content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcac Posted December 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I think whether you get bad gas or not is sometimes just a crap shoot. I do toss a bottle of Chevron Techron Fuel System Cleaner in my tank every three months, though. Chevron gas is supposed to have GM's blessing as the quote below says, and that's the additive that Chevron claims helps them get the automaker's "OK". Automotive fuel expert Joe Colucci, a former longtime fuel specialist with GM, said auto experts have always questioned how well detergents work with ethanol. He suggests people buy brand-name fuel that exceeds the EPA's minimum requirements for detergency, such as those that meet the auto industry's Top Tier standards. GM, Honda, Toyota and BMW collaborated to create the beefed-up standards, which were unveiled in May. Milwaukee-area gas suppliers that advertise their compliance with Top Tier standards are Shell, Phillips and Chevron. "Gas is gas, but gas is not gas," Colucci said. "There are some major differences in dosages (of detergents). People buy gas based on price, but when you've already spent $20,000 or $30,000 on a vehicle, that you worry about 2 or 3 cents a gallon doesn't make sense. It's penny-wise and pound foolish." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFromColorado Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 and gas station that sells fuel with a high concentrate of methanol, ethanol, other alcohol, oxygenate or even toluene (used to control knock) can cause problems in cars not equiped with stainless steal injectors. Running these products can create VERY small particles of rust on the inner surfaces of the injectors which will eventually become small pits wich can cause leaks, overheating conditions from working too hard, or complete seizure. this is why I always run non-oxy gasoline in my older cars. --Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyman87 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Ok having talked to someone who worked for the gas company.. there are basicly 2 types of gas these stores get.. BOTH from the same tank! One is RAW GAS which is the best and fastest burning. 2nd is the Same Raw gas with adatives. Shell, BP, and some other gas station use adatives in their gas. Caseys and other smaller shops do not use adatives. Simple as that. Just look out for companies with the Old gas pumps thats where most of the problems begin. Poor/minimum maitnence will come into play with older style pumps which are still good by anymeans but raises the "chance" of contamence. Saying one gas company has shit gas is total BS. Its most likely that the problem is with the car itself and that they customer didnt properly maintain the car or its an actual defect that would have happend at any pump in their city b/c the enter city gets its gas from the same gas line. The only way a problem like that would happen is if some assfuck chemist is sitting there tampering with the gas or if the gasline underground has been ruptured allowing contamonents.. Plus! how many of those vehicles have had their fuel filter changed and wouldnt the fuel filter keep shit from going into your injectors? You also have to look at the Ratio #of problems of type of car/total type of car before slandering GM which is obiously going to have more cars on the road then any other manufacturer being one of americas largest autocompanies. That artical is incomplete with unknow facts like how many import cars are haveing this problem or how many fords having this problem.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo57509 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/environment/fuel_economy_emissions/emissions/detergent_092704.html http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/environment/fuel_economy_emissions/emissions/detergent_092704.html http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html it doesn't suprise me...i've always had a preference for Amoco (BP) gas. Every car we've had seems to have gotten better fuel mileage running their gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excelsior Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 glad i dont have problems w/ that here in indiana.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitzel Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I used to buy Wal-Mart petrol here in Canada, but I filled up tonight at the local 7-11 which uses Petro Canada petrol and its additive package and it seems somewhat smoother in the -35C weather we are experiencing here. I've been told that the Chevron petrol in the United States is about the best you can buy, with Mobil coming in 2nd. Used to have great results with 'Sinclair' brand petrol, but haven't filled up at one of their stations for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I used to buy Wal-Mart petrol here in Canada, but I filled up tonight at the local 7-11 which uses Petro Canada petrol and its additive package and it seems somewhat smoother in the -35C weather we are experiencing here. I've been told that the Chevron petrol in the United States is about the best you can buy, with Mobil coming in 2nd. Used to have great results with 'Sinclair' brand petrol, but haven't filled up at one of their stations for years. i haven't bought gas at a mobil station ever since they were bought out by Exxon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tru2Chevy Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 i haven't bought gas at a mobil station ever since they were bought out by Exxon. No big deal now.....both owned by Russian company Luk Oil. Although I think my dad told me that they got bought by someone else again. The name on the sign doesn't mean much anymore. My dad manages a Mobil station here in Jersey, so I get a firsthand look at this stuff. I've watched the gas truck fill the tanks at his station, then head up the street to the Coastal/Valero station and fill their tanks with the same gas. As it was mentioned earlier, the facilities at the actual gas station matter more than the name on the signs (in most cases). - Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 i haven't bought gas at a mobil station ever since they were bought out by Exxon. No big deal now.....both owned by Russian company Luk Oil. Although I think my dad told me that they got bought by someone else again. The name on the sign doesn't mean much anymore. My dad manages a Mobil station here in Jersey, so I get a firsthand look at this stuff. I've watched the gas truck fill the tanks at his station, then head up the street to the Coastal/Valero station and fill their tanks with the same gas. As it was mentioned earlier, the facilities at the actual gas station matter more than the name on the signs (in most cases). - Justin huh they're foriegn owned now wtf??? when did that happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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