90Luminator Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Aloha to all, Does anyone one know if there is some kind of kit to mount up a B&M Mega Shifter on a 90 Eurosport Sedan? Also i'm having trouble finding out what kind of Tranny is in it. Thanks! -Andy Quote
mihela816 Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 A 90 Euro would have the 4T60. Quote
bartonmd Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 '91 or '92 started the 4T60E right? (computer controlled transmission) Mike Quote
Justin Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Could be a 3 speed as well, whatever that code is. The 4T60 is the 4 speed. Quote
mihela816 Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 ALL Euros got the 4 speed, only base models got the 3 speed. And 1st gen Luminas with the 3.1 never got the 4T60-E. Quote
bartonmd Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 ALL Euros got the 4 speed, only base models got the 3 speed. And 1st gen Luminas with the 3.1 never got the 4T60-E. no shit? None of the luminas up to '95 had an electronic controlled trans? Quote
mihela816 Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Well the 3.4's did. Lumina's got the shaft. No newer brakes, no new trans, no 3100. Quote
bartonmd Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Automatic transmission: 4T60E transmissions may drop out of drive while cruising, shift erratically, or have no second, third, or fourth gear because of a bad ground connection for the shift solenoids. Poor grounds also allow wrong gear starts. (1991-94) Depends on when you consider first gen engine I guess... It's the same body style, but some stuff changed... Is first gen '89 and '90 only? Quote
Euro Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 ALL Euros got the 4 speed, only base models got the 3 speed. And 1st gen Luminas with the 3.1 never got the 4T60-E. thats not true, my 94 with the 3.1 has the 4T60-E. and its the original motor/trans Quote
bartonmd Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 OK, looks like '91-93 got the 440-T4 and '94 got the electronically controlled 4T60-E. This right? Automatic transmission: TH-125 or 440-T4 automatic transmissions may shift late or not upshift at all. The problem is a stuck throttle valve inside the transmission. (1991-93) 1994 Chevrolet Lumina: All '94 Luminas had a V6 engine and 4-speed automatic transmission with new electronic controls. The base coupe departed, leaving only Euro and Z34 coupes. A new design was in the works for 1995. Edit: From here by the way... http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/2013.htm Quote
GP1138 Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 ALL Euros got the 4 speed, only base models got the 3 speed. And 1st gen Luminas with the 3.1 never got the 4T60-E. *BZZT* Wrong. My Lumina Euro has a THM-125C 3-speed transmission. Try again. Quote
5speedz34 Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 90-93 the 3 speed was the 125C 90-93 was the 4 speed 4T60 I thought all W's got the 4t60-e in '93 am i wrong? Also I know very few Lumina's got the 3100 but I think it was toward the end of the model year. Why do you want to put a BM shifter in a Lumina? Quote
paulo57509 Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 My 1992 GM shop manual has sections for the 3-speed, the 4-speed and the "E" 4-speed. Quote
bartonmd Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 I think the 3.4 did get the "e" version in '91, which is probably what that's talking about. Mike Quote
DiscoStudd Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Here's a page that'll clear the confusion: http://www.rebuilt-auto-transmissions.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=175&l_make2=&sid=5uJJIM10O9ta1on-07104213471.f7 Quote
bartonmd Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 well... there ya go... thanks! Mike Quote
mihela816 Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Oh I get it. The other W's got the 4T60-E in 93 and the Lumina didn't till 94. Quote
Carotop Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Were all the cuttys with a manual tranny turbo? I was just lookin through that a little. Quote
GutlessSupreme Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Were all the cuttys with a manual tranny turbo? I was just lookin through that a little. Cutlasses never came with turbos... and manuals never came with turbos in the Grand Prix, either.. Quote
sl3196 Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Were all the cuttys with a manual tranny turbo? I was just lookin through that a little. newb Quote
Carotop Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 Then that site is screwed up because for aspiration it say TURBO. And I should have noticed when it said that for all the Cutties Quote
bluegp Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 ...mount up a B&M Mega Shifter on a 90 Eurosport Sedan... When using a shifter designed for a RWD car, keep in mind that the spacing between some of the shifter detents will probably need to be changed. You'll have to measure how far the shifter cable moves for each position in a factory setup and then make sure the aftermarket shifter will do the same thing. Quote
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