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this is a real shot at the dark and i thought i got rid of this damn issue but its still there. i'm about to say fuck it and pass this car on to the next and get a newer w-body. the problem i'm experiencing right now is that when i go to accellerate from lets say a stop i feel like ... a lag between me pushing the accelerator and the car physically doing shit to make shit happen. this ONLY appears to happen when its moderately warm, for a few days its been quite cold and the cars been pretty damn responsive, now that its warming up alittle i get that annoyingness to it. (perhaps its me being to damn tired and worrying about it) but ...

 

just currious if anyone else has had this type of issue ... unless its time for me to get serious about my damn swap.

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Please provide more information, ie: which car, which engine, and what sort of maintenance you have done on it so far.

 

Your issues could be anything from coil packs, to a binding throttle cable, to major, or perhaps even minor transmission issues. The more information you are able to provide, the more likely it is that someone on here will recognize your symptoms and provide you a fairly good idea of how to diagnose it.

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This is a Cutlass Supreme, 1996, with the 3100 in it. She's currently clocked at 140,000 miles. Like I said though this only seems to happen when it gets moderatly warm. And my gas peddle from other cars seems alittle loose (as in mooshy). Not firm like the rest. I test drove another Cutlass and it had a pretty decently firm feel to it...

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i've had the same problem since day one with my car.

 

it's interminnent, isn't it? somedays it does it, some days it doesn't.

 

i just learned to live with it, just like our shitty brakes.

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i just learned to live with it, just like our shitty brakes.

 

Yeah, no shit. I was walking down the road yesterday, and heard some tires screeching, and then a slam. Some guy hit a deer, and it really fucked up his car, but his car was an old POS anyways. But, I was thinking to myself, damn I wish my brakes were good enough to lock the tires up. Not that locking up the tires is a good thing, I just wish they were powerful enough to...they don't even come close right now.

 

Shawn

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i just learned to live with it, just like our shitty brakes.

 

Yeah, no shit. I was walking down the road yesterday, and heard some tires screeching, and then a slam. Some guy hit a deer, and it really fucked up his car, but his car was an old POS anyways. But, I was thinking to myself, damn I wish my brakes were good enough to lock the tires up. Not that locking up the tires is a good thing, I just wish they were powerful enough to...they don't even come close right now.

 

Shawn

 

yup. it's pretty fucking sad our cars won't, CAN'T engage the abs on dry pavement

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i just learned to live with it, just like our shitty brakes.

 

Yeah, no shit. I was walking down the road yesterday, and heard some tires screeching, and then a slam. Some guy hit a deer, and it really fucked up his car, but his car was an old POS anyways. But, I was thinking to myself, damn I wish my brakes were good enough to lock the tires up. Not that locking up the tires is a good thing, I just wish they were powerful enough to...they don't even come close right now.

 

Shawn

 

yup. it's pretty fucking sad our cars won't, CAN'T engage the abs on dry pavement

 

BZZZ! Wrong. I can, have, and will engage my abs on dry pavement, so speak for yourself.

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...when i go to accellerate...... a lag between me pushing the accelerator and the car physically doing shit to make shit happen.

That describes my '96 Lumina. When rolling, but not fast, I'll floor the pedal - sometimes it will violently downshift after a LONG pause & sometimes it won't downshift at all and accellerate very slowly. I just assume it's crappy transmission programming and high FD gearing. Hell, the other day I all but floored it from a stop and the wheels didn't even spin on a wet road. My '89 GP feels like it has more power & the transmission's characteristics are so much better.

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i just learned to live with it, just like our shitty brakes.

 

Yeah, no shit. I was walking down the road yesterday, and heard some tires screeching, and then a slam. Some guy hit a deer, and it really fucked up his car, but his car was an old POS anyways. But, I was thinking to myself, damn I wish my brakes were good enough to lock the tires up. Not that locking up the tires is a good thing, I just wish they were powerful enough to...they don't even come close right now.

 

Shawn

 

yup. it's pretty fucking sad our cars won't, CAN'T engage the abs on dry pavement

 

BZZZ! Wrong. I can, have, and will engage my abs on dry pavement, so speak for yourself.

 

I also have too. But its not something I like to do.

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i just learned to live with it, just like our shitty brakes.

 

Yeah, no shit. I was walking down the road yesterday, and heard some tires screeching, and then a slam. Some guy hit a deer, and it really fucked up his car, but his car was an old POS anyways. But, I was thinking to myself, damn I wish my brakes were good enough to lock the tires up. Not that locking up the tires is a good thing, I just wish they were powerful enough to...they don't even come close right now.

 

Shawn

 

yup. it's pretty fucking sad our cars won't, CAN'T engage the abs on dry pavement

 

BZZZ! Wrong. I can, have, and will engage my abs on dry pavement, so speak for yourself.

 

My cutlass had no problems engaging the abs on dry pavement. With the abs off it would lock up the tires.

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i just learned to live with it, just like our shitty brakes.

 

Yeah, no shit. I was walking down the road yesterday, and heard some tires screeching, and then a slam. Some guy hit a deer, and it really fucked up his car, but his car was an old POS anyways. But, I was thinking to myself, damn I wish my brakes were good enough to lock the tires up. Not that locking up the tires is a good thing, I just wish they were powerful enough to...they don't even come close right now.

 

Shawn

 

yup. it's pretty fucking sad our cars won't, CAN'T engage the abs on dry pavement

 

My car is the exact same!

I can't get it to lock the wheels up at all in dry weather.

Since some people can and some can't there must be a fix for more power somewhere? anyone figure it out yet?

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I've locked up the brakes on my 88' before numberous times, probably cause the tires were shitty and the back brakes didn't work. With my 95', the car just fucking stops, I haven't had the need to mash the brakes hard enough for the ABS to engage, cause the tires just grip and the car stops. Can't wait till winter to see if the ABS actually works. :lol:

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i just learned to live with it, just like our shitty brakes.

 

Yeah, no shit. I was walking down the road yesterday, and heard some tires screeching, and then a slam. Some guy hit a deer, and it really fucked up his car, but his car was an old POS anyways. But, I was thinking to myself, damn I wish my brakes were good enough to lock the tires up. Not that locking up the tires is a good thing, I just wish they were powerful enough to...they don't even come close right now.

 

Shawn

 

yup. it's pretty fucking sad our cars won't, CAN'T engage the abs on dry pavement

 

My car is the exact same!

I can't get it to lock the wheels up at all in dry weather.

Since some people can and some can't there must be a fix for more power somewhere? anyone figure it out yet?

 

You get what you pay for with brake pads. Carbon metallic is NOT the answer either. Also the condition of your brake fluid, calipers, rotors plays a big factor.

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i use high quality parts.

 

AC Delco pads, Raybestos PG plus rotors, and Pep Boys reman calipers all around. most of my brake fluid is new, and there's no air in the system

 

 

won't engage abs on dry pavement, the car just gradually slows down :lol:

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I've never tried Delco pads personally. Hopefully GM didn't outsource and go with a cheap company (they probably did) I use prostop ceramic.

 

i figured AC Delco pads would be a good choice because my grandfather's Alero, my mom's Impala, hell even my dad's 3/4 ton Silverado all have great factory brakes.

 

i've heard AC Delco pads are re-baged Raybestos Quiet Stops. not sure how true that is but i've heard that from a few people.

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I've never tried Delco pads personally. Hopefully GM didn't outsource and go with a cheap company (they probably did) I use prostop ceramic.

 

i figured AC Delco pads would be a good choice because my grandfather's Alero, my mom's Impala, hell even my dad's 3/4 ton Silverado all have great factory brakes.

 

i've heard AC Delco pads are re-baged Raybestos Quiet Stops. not sure how true that is but i've heard that from a few people.

 

The new GM's also have revised master cylinders and power boosters. Heck my dad's '02 GP compared to mine, nothing is the same.

 

But if that's true that the delco's are rebadged QS, then that's your problem. The QS are a HARD compound, which overheat rotors and warp them. Braking effort is also increased a little.

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