skiiirt Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 So I booked the cutty into the GM dealership to have it serviced. I have an unusually long start (6-10 seconds start) My mechanic tested everything and the he says the fuel pump was incorrectly installed (he said they didnt do it right). I just got a call back from the dealership and they say its the fuel pressure regulator. Now I just spend over $1000 getting things like this fixed at that dealership.(fuel pump, starter, ICM, EGR, ECM) He says it is not and he tested it. Now I'm going to have a bitch on my hands here. I know the dealership will not compensate me for the work he does to correct the problem. Getting them to admit to anything is going to be a pita The car also stalls at slow speeds (into parking lots etc) So I dont know what to do. Ignore the long start and stalling and save my money or have the mechanic fix what he believes is the problem Im slowly starting to lose faith in my local gm dealership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke1991 Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Well once they kept bouncing back and forth i would of just said, give me my car back, I would NEVER EVER my car to a dealership to be fixed, especially an old car like this. I dont know what to tell you, ive been down the road so many times, you better just bitch your ass off and get the work done for free. or work at somthing like a warranty on ALL work done along with parts...etc Shit happens, people get fucked... its a part of life man... dont know what else to say... goodluck though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldsmoBeast Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Not only does our local chevy dealer pull that sh*t on all their customers, but so do a lot of mechanic shops around here. Their primary concern is to make money. Most of them don't give a rats ass what's wrong with your car. you're better off doing your own work. YK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke1991 Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Not only does our local chevy dealer pull that sh*t on all their customers, but so do a lot of mechanic shops around here. Their primary concern is to make money. Most of them don't give a rats ass what's wrong with your car. you're better off doing your own work. YK i completly agree with you. get a service manual for your car(i still dont own one so i annoy the crap out of brian ) and read it. and if you need anyhelp post it up on w-body. we will try and help you the best we can. other than that. i got screwed with my back brakes for my 93 cutlass, ive spent over 1000 at 1 gurage because the calipers kept going, and they claimed i was driving with the ebrake on. after i disconnected the e-brake and proved to them that its the dam calipers(replaced 2 times over there) they said i fucked with them. so i ended up doing the job myself and 1 day i went over there and showed them and bitched them out... also stoped 4 people from doing business with that gurage. best thing to do is bite your losses, get it fixed correctly by a respectible mechanic or person. go back to the place and slap down the items that are broken/or replaced...etc and bitch them the fuck out, make a scene, while walking out tell no one to get work done to there cars at the place.. and feel happy you screwed the place u went to out of some business. my mom tought me well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldsmoBeast Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Not only does our local chevy dealer pull that sh*t on all their customers, but so do a lot of mechanic shops around here. Their primary concern is to make money. Most of them don't give a rats ass what's wrong with your car. you're better off doing your own work. YK i completly agree with you. get a service manual for your car(i still dont own one so i annoy the crap out of brian ) and read it. and if you need anyhelp post it up on w-body. we will try and help you the best we can. other than that. i got screwed with my back brakes for my 93 cutlass, ive spent over 1000 at 1 gurage because the calipers kept going, and they claimed i was driving with the ebrake on. after i disconnected the e-brake and proved to them that its the dam calipers(replaced 2 times over there) they said i fucked with them. so i ended up doing the job myself and 1 day i went over there and showed them and bitched them out... also stoped 4 people from doing business with that gurage. best thing to do is bite your losses, get it fixed correctly by a respectible mechanic or person. go back to the place and slap down the items that are broken/or replaced...etc and bitch them the fuck out, make a scene, while walking out tell no one to get work done to there cars at the place.. and feel happy you screwed the place u went to out of some business. my mom tought me well See, I dropped over $1500 on work at this one shop....and it felt like they didn't do ANYTHING AT ALL....in fact, the car was ACTUALLY worse when I got it back...I took it back to them and I told them straight out. You know what they did? Two things: #1- They tried coming up with new things that might have gone bad, unrelated to any work they'd done... Including trying to convince me that stuff had gone bad that I KNOW could not have possibly gone bad on my car. #2- They actually sabotaged my car. I wouldn't try proving this one in court, but I'd go in with a perfect engine... and come out with a broken vacuum hose and another broken/disconnected vacuum hose farther down...and a leaking water pump!! Was it just a coincidence that all of these things decided to break while I was at their shop? (By the way, the techs wouldn't tell you that it was a broken vac. hose, or a water pump leaking, they'd tell me symptoms that they'd 'noticed', like the car was stumbling and had a rough idle, or leaking fluid, and to leave it there for diagnosis. Meanwhile, they're fully aware of whats wrong and that those are some easy-ass jobs to do, probably get it all done in 30 minutes time and charge you up the ass for things they didn't even have to do...fuck, thats annoyying) These mechanics I'm telling you about, have one of the best reputations in town...and everyone that knows them thinks highly of them and the work they do. To be honest with you, they are very nice to deal with...but they're SNEAKY BASTARDS!!!! I'm pretty sure they assumed that I never looked under the hood, or wasn't as mechanically inclined as I am, because they pulled some rediculous shit on me. After seeing that, I pointed the things out to the tech who was working on my car...and hes like "Oh yeah..looks like someone did a real mickey mouse job on those lines..." I'm like "yeah, someone being YOU" and I took my keys, and I got in my car and left HUGE burnout marks in their garage and I will never go back there again. I got my new TB lines from a 99 GP at a j/y (for $5) and they took me 30 seconds to put on, Got a water pump for $20 off said car and a new gasket courtesy of Davis (thanks man), and flushed my rad and shit while I was at it... I still have to go over all the other work that they fucked up, but I'm still out the $1530.78 that I paid them for their bullshit. Liscenced fucking con artists. Thats my story...I'm sure others here have heard most of it but it just pisses me off...so I had to let it out. I'm sorry. YK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke1991 Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 its ok. a few people have herd my shit, Welcome to owning a W lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiiirt Posted October 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Ok so now the dealership wants $80 for their diagnosis I told these fuckers what was wrong and what to look at. I didnt ask them "hey whats wrong with my car" The problem is with their service, not that I need a new this or a new that. I cant understand these people. I bring it in to have the fuel pump checked (because thats what they replaced) My mechanic says it was installed improperly. All I wanted was for them to look at t and say yes we fucked up (ya right) or no sorry thats not the problem. I am going to have this mechanic fix it and I'm gunna be there at the dealership door with the bill and my wonderfully working car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcrow Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 If ya want it done right you gotta do it yourself - its cheaper too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiiirt Posted October 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Ya, unfortunately I don't have a hoist to work on my car otherwise I would much good trying to work on a 3.4 from the top does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 thats exactly why my car sees a shop for one of 2 reasons, a. state inspection, and b. tires. and the tire place i don't even trust. i just got through fixing my friends grandmother's buick century, it was having stalling issues and it would randomly die and sometimes restart sometimes not restart. 2 shops and lord knows how much $$ later it still did it and they could not figgure it out, i sat down and played with it... and ICM later and its running perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFromColorado Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 I've installed several fuel pumps, and not once have I ever figured out how to install one wrong. I'd almost say the dealorship is correct with the FPR being the problem - I had the FPR go out on several of my cars, and every time it resulted in a hard start condition. --Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokemBokem Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 I also recently had a fuel pump go out and they fucked me with charges also. Now that I have a chilton and im acually learning about my car I would try almost any job myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFromColorado Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Fuel pump jobs are a BITCH if you do 'em yourself without a hoist and Trans jack - but it's do-able (I've done it at least twice in the past year or so on two different cars) Next time I have a fuel pump outta the car, I'm gonna make some provisions in the floorpan for a door that can open, where I will be able to remove the pump, without having to remove the tank. --Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokemBokem Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Fuel pump jobs are a BITCH if you do 'em yourself without a hoist and Trans jack - but it's do-able (I've done it at least twice in the past year or so on two different cars) Next time I have a fuel pump outta the car, I'm gonna make some provisions in the floorpan for a door that can open, where I will be able to remove the pump, without having to remove the tank. --Dave. my dad was talking about making a door like this one in my car. That would be a really cool thing to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFromColorado Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 yeah, I don't know why they didn't do it from the factory - perhaps because it'd make WAY too much sense. I got the idea workin' on my friends 3000 GT VR4 when we ran the "hot wire" to the fuel pump. --Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPRACER Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 "i completly agree with you. get a service manual for your car(i still dont own one so i annoy the crap out of brian ) and read it. and if you need anyhelp post it up on w-body. we will try and help you the best we can." Some of the "WE" that try to help work at dealerships, how do you think "WE" feel when you generally call us all down to the dirt. It gets very tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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