HokemBokem Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 So yesterday i get in my car to go to work and I turn the key and nothing. It just turned over, all the lights and radio were working fine. So already being late my mom had to take me to work :x but later on that night I was thinkin my keyless entry might not be shuttin the alarm off keepin my car from starting(it was lockin and unlockin doors). So later that night I tried my extra set of keys and it started fine and has been starting fine. So I was wondering whats wrong with my other keyless entry, is it not turning the alarm off? And how would i fix it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyman87 Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 do you have a security light come on? or a key with a chip in it? if not then it might be another issue other then your remote entery system lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Sounds like the first key you used is bad. Lemme clarify: The little chip on the side of the key has a resistance value that is measured inside the lock cylinder. If the resistance matches what's set in the "VATS" (not sure what the acronym stands for, but it's a form of security system) module, the PCM allows the starter to engage. If the wrong resistance is read, the car won't turn over and the "Security" light will flash. This would explain the 2nd key starting the car. The pellet on your 1st key is most likely worn out. Take the 2nd key to the dealer and have a new one cut. If you have any more problems, drop me a PM. I wrote a post a few months back on how to bypass the VATS system without spending more than $5 total (and not taking more than 20 minutes...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokemBokem Posted October 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Yea heres my keys With my car you have to unlock it with the remote start to start the car. Its some security feature. Those keys dont start my car for some reason but they unlock and lock the doors. My other set that i started using when i found this problem starts the car and unlocks it and everything. I was thinkin maybe something broke in the key or keyless entry because i used that set everyday. So what do you guys think? New battery for it or new key from dealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Wait a sec, you have a remote start system installed in your car? That would put a different paint job on things. When a remote start system is installed, they put in a resistor inline with the VATS system to temporarily disable it so the remote start will start the car without the key in the ignition... From the looks of your pic, it looks like you're talking about the factory Remote Keyless Entry (RKE.) Are you saying that you use the "Unlock" button to open the doors instead of the key? I would imagine if you had a remote start system, you'd have a different remote. Whether or not you use the RKE to gain entry to the car has no bearing on the VATS system... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokemBokem Posted October 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 oh my bad i dont have remote start, it just unlocks and locks the doors and pops the trunk but i need to unlock it with the clicker to start the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Naaa, that's all in your head . The "clicker" has nothing to do with the "VATS" system at all. It simply activates your door locks remotely, nothing fancier than that... I'm leaning towards thinking that your first key is worn out. If the second one will start the car repeatedly, try switching back to the first one and see if it will start. I'll bet that it won't. Take the 2nd (good) key to the dealer to have it duplicated and throw the bad one out (maybe break it for good measure...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokemBokem Posted October 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 how much is a new key and can i just go to any GM dealer. And about the keyless entry, if i get in my car and try to start it without hitting the unlock button first it doesent start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 That's fuckin wierd right there! Anyways, a new key costs $30. Some will say a locksmith can do it cheaper, but I haven't found one in my area that can, so I just stick to the local Chevy dealer (yes, you can go to any GM dealer, but probably not Saturn...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 That's fuckin wierd right there! Anyways, a new key costs $30. Some will say a locksmith can do it cheaper, but I haven't found one in my area that can, so I just stick to the local Chevy dealer (yes, you can go to any GM dealer, but probably not Saturn...) ...i just payed $50 to have a key made for my cutty... :dammit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 buy a key blank from ebay for like $7, have any place cut it for you for $1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokemBokem Posted October 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 but i need the chip also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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