supreme_style21 Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 How is it properly done? I'm getting a cluster with 140k on it.. I want my 100k odometer in there. 140k cluster is from a 95 GP. 100k cluster is from a 94 GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegaslumina Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 I had my cluster swapped, but I didnt do it myself. The shop that did it said they would have to set it to the correct mileage and then take it to the dmv and get it certified. I think that is what your asking, if not disregard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 i did this on my old cutlass ciera, i upgraded to the full gauges and din't want a odo that said 136,700 in my 69,300 car i took it apart and figgured out that you could remove the number roll and put it into your new cluster, now you have to be EXTREMELY careful when doing this that you do not jar the numbers or make them move much and you gotta get it back in PERFECT and as far as the legal stuff goes... its perfectly legal to make your gauges reflect the actual mileage, in fact its illegal not to. no "recirtification" required. and if you got digital gauges... well i really can't help ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patgizz Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 on the lumina, the odometer came out of the cluster with 2 screws and i put my original one in the new gauges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rockstar Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 I am an expert at rolling these things.. I rolled from 114k to 256k on my 6000's odo after I upgraded to my full gauge package! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 How is it properly done? I'm getting a cluster with 140k on it.. I want my 100k odometer in there. 140k cluster is from a 95 GP. 100k cluster is from a 94 GP.Funny you should mention this, as I just purchased a 95 GP cluster for my Regal. The mileage read 60K and my car has 176K. The only way to swap out the odometers is to take the whole cluster apart, remove the speedo needle, and unbolt the whole assembly (the speedo and odo are contained in one unit.) I have the GP cluster apart right now (I can snap some pics when I get home from work) and instead of swapping out the odometers (because I want to leave the stock cluster alone,) I removed the stepper motor from the odometer and have been using another small motor connected to a 9V battery to spin the odometer forward (I'm at about 125K right now .) It's not physically possible to roll it back, though. If you plan on swapping the sepeedo/odo assembly, before you remove the needle (and before removing the cluster from the car,) switch on the ignition and note where the needle sits. When you reassemble the cluster, plug it back into the car's harness and switch on the ignition and install the needle in the same spot you noted it to be in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rockstar Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 So, you cant just un screw the speedo from behind w/o removing the needle? How odd... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 So, you cant just un screw the speedo from behind w/o removing the needle? How odd...The overlay for the entire cluster is one piece and the gauges' guts attach to the back side of the overlay, with the needles mounting from the front. The circuit board unscrews from the frame and is only attached to the stepper motors (using tensioned connectors, not soldered) so it pops off fairly easily. The frame is sandwiched between the overlay and circuit board. I'll snap and post some pics of it when I get home from work tonight so you guys can see what I'm talking about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Oh yeah, I just wanted to add that you could snap out the whole odometer without removing the needle. You'll have to wiggle the whole assembly around a bit after removing the screws to snake it out. One end of the odometer's "axle" is "snapped" into the fingers that hold it in place and the other end just sits in a pocket (you'll have to "un-snap" one end and lift it out carefully without forcing the needle off...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokemBokem Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 hey disco can i see a pic of your new gauges in your regal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 hey disco can i see a pic of your new gauges in your regal?You bet! I'll have pics posted as soon as I get everything installed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokemBokem Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 hey disco can i see a pic of your new gauges in your regal?You bet! I'll have pics posted as soon as I get everything installed... Allright thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPdriver1986 Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 When I switched my base cluster to a full gages package, I just removed the odometer/trip from the cluster assembly, and swapped it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EurosportZ34 Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 I am an expert at rolling these things.. I rolled from 114k to 256k on my 6000's odo after I upgraded to my full gauge package! so your saying that is pretty easy to do, cause i'll pry have to do that in mu Euro when i swap the cluster i can't wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1kicker Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Yeah it's just two screws I think. I replaced my cluster, just transferred the odo/tripometer to the new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rockstar Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 When I switched my base cluster to a full gages package, I just removed the odometer/trip from the cluster assembly, and swapped it. That may work in other Ws, but I do not believe the Lumina ever had a Tripo in the base cluster.. And Yea, Brad.. Really simple.. lol.. I had no problems.. You can go backward and forward.. And the Odo functions as it should.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme_style21 Posted September 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Cool.. post them pics of that cluster you've tore apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 I never bothered changing mine.. Oh well the DMV will be interested in wondering why I had 180k at my 2003 inspection and 160k at my 2004 one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 shaun you could get in BIG trouble for that, just ask davefromcolorado, the last owner of his car is doing 2 years for odomiter fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Don't worry I'm not selling the car. AND WEREN'T YOU GOING TO BED?!?!?!?1/ YOU JUST WANTED TO LEAVE ME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 i can't sleep but the DMV records contain incorrect information, you really should take measures to correct that problem so if you are ever questioned you could just say well it was written down wrong for that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Meh.. I don't think it'll ever become a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 well better drive it up past the 180k before next registeration, i guess i'm just anal about clusters and them being correct, i say if its sometihng that easy to do may as well do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme_style21 Posted September 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Cars ten years and older are exempt from odometer readings in this state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 ah that may be true for georgia too, but here in pa they pay prety close attention to that sorta thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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