terryk2003 Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 i have a '97 Cutlass Supreme and i was wondering if anyone knows how to make the foglights stay on with the Brights?...i've read about it being done on some other cars by jumping some pins on the relay, but i'm not sure which ones...if anyone knows how to do this, please let me know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 dont know if its possible. I've heard it overloads the system, at least in a GP, and has been known to fry stuff. I'mm sure someone know's on here, but I'd be careful with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Mr "tloftus" posted a write-up on how to wire in a relay to keep your low beams on when you switch on your high beams. I'd say just follow his write-up, but wire in the fog lights instead of the low beams. Maybe wire in the fog light's switch to another relay to kill all the power to the fog lights whenever you don't want to use them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CutlassSLCoupe Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 on the mini quad cars, the low beams stay on with the highs...the factory fog lights are junk as they are not brighter than the parking lights (no lie!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme_style21 Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 the factory fog lights are junk as they are not brighter than the parking lights (no lie!) Â That's kinda what I was thinking. The only fog lights that I've seen make an actual difference are the ones on these GP sedans.. haven't seen the coupe's, so I can't speak for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgrntld187 Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 Factory fogs do suck, but check out mine on page 5 I think of my CD page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 on the mini quad cars, the low beams stay on with the highs...the factory fog lights are junk as they are not brighter than the parking lights (no lie!) Â I can attest to that. I have no idea why they were even put on these cars. Â The only good they are is that they provide a mounting space for REAL lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted September 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 well, i actually have Sylvania Silverstar foglamps, and i have them aimed in such a fashion that i CAN see the foglights with the low beams on...they DO make it brighter...also, i converted my mini quads to Sylvania Silverstars and they're pretty bright now but i have them aimed to shine the light farther down the road, so i want the foglights to put the light right in front of me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 my foglights stay on with the highs. i haven't had any wiring problems, overloads, shorts or anything. Â Â Â Â my brother wired it up for me while i was doing one of my monthly brake jobs. i'll ask him how he did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgrntld187 Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Man that would look sweet with highs, lows, and fogs on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 I remeber the shitty cutlass fogs. Worst excuse for a fog light ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEiZe Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Man that would look sweet with highs, lows, and fogs on. Â Can you say, blinding ? Â Â Imagine how bright that would be. I would hate to be the drivers in the other lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 You don't drive with the brights on all the time do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgrntld187 Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 I get brighted all the time for just driving with parking lights and fogs :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudefyet Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 people think i have my brights on cause of where my fogs are on my gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 It's easy. There are 2 coil pins on the foglight relay labeled #85 and #86. One is +12V with the foglight switch on, the other is Ground. It's grounded through the high-beam bulbs, so when high beams are on, the ground becomes un-grounded. Cut that wire and tape off the side going to the highbeams and ground the relay side. Or if you can't get into the relay wiring, you can possibly bend a pin of the relay and connect a wire to it going ot ground. Â I don't see the point of having fogs and high-beams on though. The conditions at which foglights and highbeams would be beneficial are mutually exclusive. Fogs are pointless in anything but fog, high beams make seeing in fog worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 I don't see the point of having fogs and high-beams on though. The conditions at which foglights and highbeams would be beneficial are mutually exclusive. Fogs are pointless in anything but fog, high beams make seeing in fog worse. Â I wouldn't either, but some people have replaced their fogs with driving lights.. I literally switch back and forth at night between my highs and lows with driving lights trying to decided which one I can see better with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgrntld187 Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Yeah, my fogs are driving lights and project further than my highbeams but wider than my lows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted September 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 some people have replaced their fogs with driving lights  do these fit in the factory holes?...do they look similar to the factory fogs?...who makes em, and where can i get em?...i personally don't have a big problem with the factory fogs, BUT i'm all about BRIGHTNESS...so, i would consider swapping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Blazer Tech makes driving light replacements that fit into factory openings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgrntld187 Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Blazer Tech 2600 is what I have. I think its what Gutlass has too. Check on ebay. I got mine for 10 bucks (+10 bucks shipping), which isn't bad. I just used to stock wiring, but I believe Gutlass completely rewired it, right? Â *typo: Gutless* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Blazer Tech 2600 is what I have. I think its what Gutlass has too. Check on ebay. I got mine for 10 bucks (+10 bucks shipping), which isn't bad. I just used to stock wiring, but I believe Gutlass completely rewired it, right? *typo: Gutless*  yea I have the 2600s. They fit right into the '92+ CS cutouts.. I left the stock wiring alone so it's just sitting there. Used the wiring that came with the lights; one wire into the driverside underhood fusebox and one grounded right next to it and their set. Fuckin bright lights too.. I have to take my off and aim them better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgrntld187 Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Here's some shots I took with my lights.. Lows Only: Â Highs: Â Foglights only: Â Low Beams and Foglights: Â Front shot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted September 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 damn...those are pretty bright...so, do they plug into the factory harness then?...and does it use a special bulb, or are they the same as the factory fogs?...you REALLY got me convinced now that these are pretty wicked and they'd be the way to go...only problem is...i just looked on ebay, and did a quick search of the net and came up empty handed...lol...well, thats my luck...but, THANX... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgrntld187 Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Well, I didn't know I didn't have to run ALL the wiring, so I snipped the end off of the old fogs and wired them to that (Black to Black, Red to Purple). They take special lights, and they come with the kit, but who knows if you can find them in stores :s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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