Crossover Pipe
Last Updated: June
23, 2000
Applies to:
- 1989-90 Pontiac Grand
Prix Turbo
- 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix
STE Turbo
Symptoms
The symptoms of a cracked crossover pipe include (but are not limited to):
stalling, poor fuel economy, exhaust fumes, low peak boost, weak spot at wide
open throttle at about 4,500 rpms, failed oxygen sensors, failed catalytic converters,
failed government emissions testing, and others. Even if your car does not exibit
obvious symptoms, your crossover pipe is cracked if it is the original (or a
replacement) GM Pipe. There is no doubt about it. A GM crossover pipe will
have these cracks!
The Cause
The crossover pipe cracks at the flexible bellows. There are two flexible
bellows on the crossover pipe; each of the bellows is between the exhaust manifold
and the outlet to the turbo. Here are some pictures illustrating the cracks:
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This picture shows
the crossover pipe after I pulled it out of my TGP. The problem bellows
are hidden from view due to the outer heat shield of the crossover pipe.
The bellows are inside the two bulged areas on the heat shield. |
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The heat shield is
just 2 pieces of stamped spot welded together. To remove the shield required
drilling out the spot welds. The picture on the left shows a freshly opened
crossover, revealing the naked crossover pipe inside. |
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This is what the crossover
looks like with the heat shield completely removed. Notice how the insulation
material (white asbestos) is stained black with carbon due to the cracks
in the bellows! |
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Here is a naked and
cleaned crossover pipe. You can clearly see the flexible bellows in this
picture. Can you see where they are cracked? |
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Zooming in to the bellows
on the longer side, the crack is now obvious! |
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What's this? A crack
on the other bellows too! This is the bellows on the shorter side.
Man, these bellows really stink! |
Isolated case? No way. ALL
GM crossover pipes on the TGP will crack. I had been hearing about cracked TGP
crossovers for months before I even bought my own TGP. When I got my TGP with
just 81,266 miles on it, sure enough, my crossover was cracked too. In fact,
the pictures above were from my car. See below for a picture of a crossover
from a different TGP!
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Picture of an old crossover pipe with
3 cracks in the flexible bellows. Picture courtesy Jeff Middaugh.
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Solutions
You'll have to drop nearly a grand to purchase a brand new crossover pipe,
GM p/n 12397801. Its lowest street price is currently $986.06 shipped (GM
Parts Direct, 1/24/03)!!! Unfortunately, GM never redesigned the crossover
pipe, so at this price, it's not exactly a desirable solution. The turbo 3.1L
was also rare enough that they will be hard to find at salvage yards, and any
crossover pipe in a salvage yard is going to be cracked in the bellows anyway.
You don't have to live with a cracked crossover pipe though. There are a few
solutions:
- Cheap and Dirty
- Well, there is not really any cheap and dirty way to fix it. You could try
fudging it with JBWeld or some other exhaust patching substance, but you're
not going to get very permanent results. In fact, I wouldn't expect it would
last one trip. Not really worth the effort to remove the heat shield just
to fudge it.
- Budget Fix - Replace
the bellows with straight pipe. This will cost probably about $140 if you
have an exhaust shop do the work. This might work, but could end up being
a short term solution as the heat and stress of the exhaust can cause the
welds to crack over time. Solid pipe may also cause a poor fit at the end
fittings that attach to the manifolds - perhaps not when the engine is cold,
but through the entire range of operating temperatures, the fitment can change.
The lack of flex joints may also cause additional stress on manifolds and
cylinder heads as the pipe expands under temperature. The crossover is also
made of T-409 stainless steel, but most exhaust shops deal primarily only
with aluminized mild steel, and as a result, the pipe will be more prone to
corrosion problems.
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This is a picture of a crossover pipe that was repaired
the cheap way by an exhaust shop. |
- Better Fix - Replace
the bellows with braided flex couplings. This will cost about $200-250 at
an exhaust shop. Problems with this method may include the exhaust shop not
getting a perfect fit, the flex joints may corrode due to not being made of
stainless steel, etc. If you are skilled at TIG welding, you might be able
to fix it yourself, but premium quality T-409 flex joints are difficult to
find.
- Best Fix - Purchase
a remanufactured pipe by Jeff Middaugh
(a189pgt at earthlink dot net). These pipes are currently the best because they
are constructed with a premium flex joint/bellows. The pipe ends are also
dressed and re-formed to ensure they mate with the exhaust manifolds. These
pipes cost $425 (w/exchange) and are worth it for the quality construction
and peace of mind that this is the last time you will have to be worrying
about the crossover pipe. For more information
about Jeff's pipes (and some comparison pictures), click here.
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