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    • GnatGoSplat
      All my Cutlasses had the feature where you could force it to full brightness at night, essentially overriding "night mode" with park/headlamps on.  I can't remember if the TGP was lacking that feature or not. 🤔
    • pwmin
      Any idea what these could be from?  Custom strut housings for my Monte to fit GXP brakes, but the caliper bracket is not from a GXP and I have no information on it. Tim sent me everything he had, but it's not in there.  No clue who made these strut housings back in the day.  The Chevy dealer crossed it to a GXP bracket, but the bolt holes are about 8 1/4" apart instead of 5-ish for 2G W-bodies.  Small GMT800 brackets are too small but the larger ones are too big.  I have one on order from an SSR, which should be in between sizes, but I'm not sure.  It's a different Cardone number from either of the GMT800 ones, so hopefully it's different.  It doesn't look the same, but as long as the holes line up. Last picture is of GXP caliper and bracket.
    • rcLord510
      I’ve driven a gen 1 with FE3, my gtp, a 05 monte ss, so I haven’t drive a 3rd gen, but I will say the 2nd gens are much nicer driving. I like the cs but the gtp handles better in a lot of ways, but it depends what you consider better handling. For better cornering, the cs wins, for traction, and squat when accelerating, my gtp wins in that. So I guess it largely all depends.
    • SuperBuick
      I think youd have to do it by generation, as there are some significant changes by generation as well as intent (when you get to the later years there was more of a focus on handling handling vs the earlier focus on comfort handling).    In addition, its important to consider that skidpad Gs do not equal handling. Ive driven race cars that would do an epic skidpad number but are so ill handling in transition/under braking/whatever, that they are virtually undriveable.    I have the most experience with 1st gen w-bodies, and my vote there would be for the FE3 level Grand Prix coupe with the 245 wide tires. Though I suspect/wonder if the 1990 olds international with FE3 and the quad 4 would be the ultimate iteration for handling. Ive never driven one (almost nobody has) so I cant say definitively, hence my mention above of the 245 tire equipped GP.    For gen 1.5, Im not sure.    For the last generation, its most likely the 2008 GP GXP.  The fact they fitted reverse stagger tires (and engineered the suspension to utilize this setup) tells me someone understood how to make an FWD car handle.
    • 94 olds vert
      I've driven a decent amount of W-body cars over the years. I really like my 2000 GTP compared to the 1st gens that I've owned. I've only driven a base model 3rd gen so I'm sure that isn't a fair comparison. I've never owned a 3rd gen GP. But I guess a GXP is always on the list.  Not sure what the best handling one is I can only go with what I've driven and what cars I've owned over the years.   
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